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Acura VS. Audi

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Acura VS. Audi

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BMW530i - 10/8/2006 8:55:43 AM

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The Q7 at least looks better.

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lexusis350 - 10/8/2006 12:42:09 PM

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There is no way in Hell that Audi has a better cars than Acura. Honda is the one of the leaders in engine developement technology. Audi is owned by Volkswagen, one of the worst engines in its class several decades running. I don't know why anyone would buy an Audi after that reputation. I think that Honda should be an honored car company for revolutionizing the engine. They were the first car company to meet U.S. emission tests without putting a bunch of crap on the car to lower emissions. Volkswagen/Audi can't say the same. There is hardly a vehicle out there as good as a Honda.

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kart1 - 10/8/2006 9:24:33 AM

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And Japan vs. Germany continues.

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OBSERVER1984 - 10/8/2006 9:43:20 AM

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And Japan always win!

lexusis350 - 10/8/2006 12:43:50 PM

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I agree Will. But I like the MDX a lot better because the Q7 has A4 tail lamps. Plus, the MDX has LED tail lamps and an edgier design.

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silverarrow2 - 10/8/2006 11:20:28 AM

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I can't believe any one would think the Q7 is better looking than the MDX.

It looks like Audi just pumped up the Avant and voila!
The MDX has more curve than the hurst looking Audi.
By the way, I think Audi copied these tailights of Honda. (RDX Concept) Now we see why they use camo on concept, because of such.

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B5BAR - 10/8/2006 8:58:22 PM

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You are wrong.

Audi copied their Nuvolari concept from 2003, as did Honda with the current Civic and this Recent Acura MDX. The Nuvolari never made it into production, however many of it's design queues are present within current Audi production cars, and many parts of it have been copied by other automakers.

Remember the Q7 was based on the Audi Pikes Peak Quattro concept , a car unveiled in 2004. Audi just updated the taillights to be similar to the Nuvolari design that Audi incorporated into all Modern production cars with their logo.

elviososa - 10/8/2006 12:03:41 PM

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Rack and side view....Acura wins...
Front.....no winner...they both look ugly!

As for the whole car...Audi Q7 looks retarded...and Acura MDX...I don't know.

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huu76 - 10/8/2006 12:14:03 PM

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You know, the Acura EL (old CSX) has those tail lights about 4 years ago, except they were flipped upside down. The last Civic has that outline first as well.

Personally, I'm not crazy about either's design.

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S4cabriofox - 10/8/2006 12:21:19 PM

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JCF, you can be so weird sometimes...

You've obviously never seen the Q7 on the road. It's absolutely gorgeous, and much, much better than this odd MDX (the front of the MDX is super hyper-ugly).

"First of all Honda was the first to inspire this new type of lower-pointed taillight design in the RDX concept. "

Wrong. The Audi A3 Sportback and updated A4 were out before the RDX concept. Both have those rear lights that Acura copied. Nice try, though.

The Q7 actually starts at LESS money than the MDX, if you'd care to notice. The new Audi Q7 3.6 quattro starts at about $39,000 (with a 280hp V6 FSI engine), whereas the slightly more powerful but less roomy and less good-looking MDX is rumored to start at about $43,000.

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monkeyrun - 10/8/2006 2:39:54 PM

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"The new Audi Q7 3.6 quattro starts at about $39,000 (with a 280hp V6 FSI engine), whereas the slightly more powerful but less roomy and less good-looking MDX is rumored to start at about $43,000."

If you took the time to do a little bit of "research" (aka type Acura.com and press enter), you would know that MDX starts at $37125.

hobbes974 - 10/8/2006 3:26:11 PM

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monkey - $37,125 is for the 2006 model. The MDX above is a 2007 MDX which is not out yet.

AUDIMAN4 - 10/8/2006 2:42:58 PM

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Well, considering that the 4.2 V8 in the Q7 made Ward's 10 Best Engines last year, and an Acura engine hasn't been named in over 10 years, I think it's safe to say Audi's engines are far superior to what is offered in Acura.

Over the past years, Audi's 1.8t, 2.0t, 2.7t, 3.2, and 4.2 powerplants have been praised by Ward's 10 Best.

Let's cut through the bull and be accurate with the information we post.

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mitchatlexusofmarin - 10/8/2006 2:58:07 PM

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I'm sorry but Acura is no challenge for Audi. Different class of car.

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AUDIMAN4 - 10/8/2006 2:59:26 PM

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This entire thread is stupid. Hardly anyone considering an Audi will glance at a lowly Acura. Let's consider the facts:

1. Acura's lack of V8 and V12 engines
2. Acura's lack of quality I4 and V6 engines (evident by lack of Ward's recognition).
3. Lack of technological innovation
4. Lack of a large sedan to compete with the A8
5. Until recently, only offered in FWD
6. Acura is simply a rebaged Honda--they aren't offered anywhere but the US and are not even a luxury company.

Clearly, these two companies are on completely different levels. The average Audi customer is likely to cross shop with BMW and Mercedes, not some near luxury, imitation brand like Acura. Consider the points:

1. Audi's highly rated 4.2 and 6.0 W12 engines
2. Audi's consistent quality I4 and V6 engines (evident by Ward's consecutive 10 Best awards).
3. Audi's commitment to technological innovation--top rated Quattro, FSI, diesel/hybrid forefronts, etc.
4. Highly rated interiors with the best plastics, woods, and finest leather.
5. International brand status as a Tier I company.

NO COMPARISON.

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AUDIMAN4 - 10/8/2006 8:29:10 PM

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Good. Because I certainly don't buy cars to see a whole lot of others just like it on the road. Furthermore, Audi's pricepoint prices them out of the league of most Acura buyers.

Audi = more exclusive.
Acura = value for the masses.

MF6453 - 10/10/2006 8:49:36 AM

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You should try pulling your head out of Audi's tailpipe sometime. Your "Facts" are completely one sided. If you did your research properly on both companies like you should have, you'd have a different point of view.

Your post has little merit.

ThaR8Don - 10/13/2006 3:26:53 AM

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Acura is not a player in volume or in luxury. They are the next step up from Honda and and a few steps behind the real luxury cars. You will see more Q7's than MDX's hell Audi will probably sell more Q7's in the states than Acura sells cars.

macpowah - 10/13/2006 6:08:11 PM

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You have no idea what you're talking about, nor have you ever driven an Acura model...OBVIOUSLY. I'm a proud owner of an 06 Audi A3 2.0T, but my previous car was an 04 Acura TSX - which, arguably, has the smoothest I-4 in the world. And don't be so snotty about image...you're just a poseur anyway.

AUDBMLEXMRC - 10/8/2006 3:08:32 PM

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Nice competition. I like both of them.
Acura produces excellent cars/higt quality.The
interior is weldone too.

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ThaR8Don - 10/13/2006 3:42:33 AM

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Yes but Acura is not world renouned for their interiors or quality of fit and finish and Audi is.

AUDIMAN4 - 10/8/2006 3:10:00 PM

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lexusis350:

You really are an accurate representation of the typical Lexus owner: disillutioned, ignorant, and impressionable--the exact demographic Lexus goes after in their marketing campaigns.

To automatically assume that a Toyota or Honda will have superior technology to a VW/Audi simply because it's Japanese.

Interesting I suppose how in Europe, VW is considered to be of higher quality than Toyota. So is Audi.

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lexusis350 - 10/8/2006 4:08:06 PM

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How am I disillusioned? The ball can roll both ways. I could turn around and say you're disillusioned for liking Audi's when they are no where near as reliable, user friendly, and luxurious as many other vehicles, including German makes. Just because I prefer Lexus over lower quality Audi's and Volkswagens, is no reason to say that my opinion is wrong. I like Lexus, you like Audi. Accept the fact that no one is going to like the same things as you, even though it is hard for you to understand why they might like that brand. I don't look down on anyone who owns a Mercedes, BMW, or Audi, I just think to myself, that's what they chose, there could have been better, but that's obviously what they wanted.

Oh yeah, if Volkswagen is reguarded as a high quality car in Europe, then I never want to go there. If a Volkswagen is high quality over there, and a pile of junk on wheels here, then Europeans have small standards of what they expect from their vehicles.

AUDIMAN4 - 10/8/2006 5:56:12 PM

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The problem with your argument is that you're relying on biased, unscientific, American quality surveys to judge reliability and claim that your Toyota is more reliable than a comparable VW or Audi.

How many times must we go over the same points? That JD Powers determines the most reliable makes on a three year point basis based on "problems", yet doesn't modify the data to account for mileage, driving habits, or maintenance intervals. Furthermore, this foolish survey doesn't even define for us what these so-called problems are.

Taking a closer look at the data, we see that between a Lexus and the least "reliable" make, there was only a three "problem" difference. Accounting for the fact that a problem isn't even clearly defined, these differences are trivial.

Again, if Lexus were such a great company with so much to offer, they'd be doing a lot better than 20,000 units for all of Europe last year. If they were so great, they'd be more highly regarded in Australia and Canada. But they're not.

Fact is, in other countries, people prefer the prestige of a German car over a nicely done imitation with a so-called "quality" advantage.

AUDIMAN4 - 10/8/2006 6:44:46 PM

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You Japanese fanatics may not like it, but your dubious quality surveys just don't amount to much.

According to the 2006 VDS study, Audi ranks in at 297 problems per 100 vehicles, or 2.97 problems per vehicle. Lexus is quoted as having 136 problems per 100 vehicles, or 1.36 problems per vehicle.

Given the fact that my A4 has yet to have a single problem after two years and my dad's almost new GS has had some transmission issues, I'd say this information is flawed.

huu76 - 10/8/2006 11:27:00 PM

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What country are we talking about? It sure isn't Japan, the U.S., India or China.

Maybe some middle eastern countries where they have 1 reliable prestigious Landcruiser to take them where their sitting pretty German car can't?

lexusis350 - 10/8/2006 11:58:57 PM

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So AUDIMAN4,
By saying that Audi has more problems that Lexus, you're the one being biased. You just can't face the fact that Lexus is taking major profits from other luxury makes. You're so upset that Audi isn't what it once was, that you're trying to convince yourself and everyone else that they don't have problems. Well, let me update you. In the last 18 years, German cars have spiraled down in sales and as long as Lexus is thrown into the mix, they will never be what they once were. Lexus is a revolution in the luxury class.

AUDIMAN4 - 10/9/2006 1:50:54 AM

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Where do you get this stuff? Last time I checked the 20,000 units Lexus sold in Europe last year didn't even register!

Lexus may be a threat in the US, but the expectations of international customers are quite different and it's unlikely they will ever gain the amount of success that they have in the US.

Lexus was successful in pulling the wool over the typical American consumers eyes--copying tried and true technology from German makes, pretending it's a European company, and then selling the product at a discount.

That strategy will not work in other markets, where consumers are simply more educated.

lexusis350 - 10/9/2006 5:52:06 PM

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Lexus is a major threat in the U.S., the largest automarket in the world. If you can't make it here, you can't make it anywhere. Lexus has made it here and is now starting into other parts of the world. It will take a while, but they will evenutally sell more cars than any other luxury vehicles, world wide.

ThaR8Don - 10/13/2006 3:44:10 AM

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Agreed Audiman

ThaR8Don - 10/13/2006 3:59:18 AM

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Lexus is350 please understand the Japanese are only strong in the SUV segment. Not to mention the japanese brands are usually the stepping stone to the Germans. Now more accurate to the point is Lexus did take the SUV market and run with it for a while but they have surely lost their grip. Also Lexus does not nor has ever had a better car. They are just faster to cover it up. And last point from me for those of you who are not in the Auto industry, it's a little known fact but JD Powers only surveys a small percentage of cars and only for 1 quarter of the year. There is no possible way to get true real world results that way. I for one have owned a Lexus and traded it in after 2 months of ownership and I still get recall notices from Lexus about the car. I haven't owend the car for over 6 years now. If their cars didn't break they would come with lifetime warranties and their dealers would on serve as quick lube stations. Give that some thought befor the next person blurts out some true ingorance. It's ok to be a fan of any brand you chose but don't believe the hype!

ThaR8Don - 10/13/2006 4:21:50 AM

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Recent continued press prove Lexusis350 wrong. Sorry but those be the facts. And they are all over Autospies. Toyota as a group has shown it's true colors and proven they do not make a perfect car. They make a good car but not what you all have been brainwashed into believing they do.

huu76 - 10/13/2006 10:45:26 PM

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Educated buyers in Europe. Yes, that's why they're all switching over to Toyota/Honda.

Whatever makes you sleep better at night. I have a friend who's in the industry and he says stay away from American because their standards are lower, and the Germans don't do as much testing as they used to before they go to assembly.

He refits assembly lines and knows exactly what standards are used for Ford, Toyota, Honda, Suzuki and Mercedes.

Acurakid82 - 10/16/2006 4:32:29 AM

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First of all I would just like to through in my personal opinion that on a style basis, I think the MDX looks are FAR superior to that of the Q7. I had seen pictures of the Q7 and thought it was decent looking, but when I actually saw one in the dealer show room last week I think in reality it just looks like a station wagon. Also every major auto website and magazine is raving about how The new MDX has the most powerful engine in its class... one of which was a direct comparison with the Q7. Funny how even though as Audiman4 mentioned Acura doesn't have the larger V8 engines as Audi... it doesn't need them. They can blow the competition out of the water while being more efficient with a V6. But then that seems to be the German engineering attiture... Don't worry about using natural resources for the short time that we still have them.
On another note, the most important reason why I would always choose an Acura over an Audi is that of reliability. My first car was a VW. It was a NIGHTMARE! I had it for only a year, but I can't tell you how many times it broke down. Then I upgraded to an Audi A4. No kidding, the check engine light came on 1 week after I bought it. It did break down. Audi replaced under lemon law stipulations. The second A4 they gave me ran fine for the most part for the next few years I had it until I had to pay $5,000 worth of repairs because they had to remove the turbo and take apart the entire engine to do the repair work. I also had to get the seats replaced as the leather cracked on the front 2 seats within the first 2 years. I have now had an Acura TL for almost 3 years, 40,000 miles.... not one problem. I find it to have all the same luxury features my A4, but MUCH greater dependability. And in reality... what good does a car do you no matter how luxurious it is if it doesn't serve its main function.... transportation.

JUGNU - 10/8/2006 3:35:10 PMView My AgentSpace

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Sleek MDX.
FAT Q7.

I agree with JCF110 the Acura MDX looks way better than the Q7.
Audi Q7 just looks ugly at the rear.So fat.

JUGNU

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BimmerFan - 10/8/2006 3:49:04 PM

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The Audi A4 looks like a 4 door Civic from the rear as well. As for the Audi and Acura SUVs....they both look like crap. I would put my money on the '07 X5.

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Hyundai - 10/8/2006 11:23:43 PM

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As a general rule, I like Audi designs more than Acura designs. In this case, the suspect Q7 looks like a fat lard. The MDX looks interesting at least. I would take the MDX. But yes, the X5 crushes them both.

huu76 - 10/8/2006 4:09:57 PM

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In Europe, VW is automatically considered better because its German. Why do you think Toyota/Honda do so well in N.America while VW is barely scraping by, because we expect more than just "its German".

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AUDIMAN4 - 10/8/2006 6:15:56 PM

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You some how manage to turn every single argument into a racial one--that Europeans prefer and regard VW's as higher quality simply because it's German.

On the same token, I can say you are the same way with Asian brands--biased and irrational.

Americans buyers and buyers in other parts of the world are markedly different and maybe it's possible that Toyota/Honda engineering is better suited for the American market. But to undermine European preference for VW by insinuating racism makes you look stupid.

huu76 - 10/8/2006 11:29:37 PM

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The difference is that Japanese cars prove they are the best.

German cars try to trick their customers into thinking it.

How is mocking "its German" racial? Don't BMW fans always prance around about that "German feeling" that no other brand can replicate? Nice try.

huu76 - 10/9/2006 8:03:08 PM

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Are the Toyota buyers the same fools who can't afford a VW Lupo? If you're going to compare sales/price figures, (the very BS you tell me not to do) compare the same class. Yaris vs Lupo.

Check your prices again, Acuras are going up in price. If they can't compete, why would they be doing this?

Prove 90% believe VWs are better? I can spout out numbers w/o providing proof too.

ThaR8Don - 10/13/2006 4:08:03 AM

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Not true, VW is nowhere near scraping by. Americans by brand names not value. Lexus was created for the US because they know we buy names! The Japanese would dominate in europe if theire cars were that great. By the by it is also an industry known fact the Japanese camp out near the German proving grounds to copy their designs. This Acura is no accident. Most of you act as if this is the first time German and Japanese cars have had a resemblance. Even the corporate guys at Lexus begin internal presentaions with " And you'll notice, much like Mercedes...."

huu76 - 10/13/2006 10:47:25 PM

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You are correct, a lot of Americans do buy on brand rather than substance. How do you explain Toyota/Lexus building superior cars yet BMW still sells a decent # (not as high as Lexus though).

huu76 - 10/8/2006 4:15:16 PM

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Kind of funny. Foxy is arguing the Q7 is cheaper while Audiman calls the Acura lowly. You guys don't know whether you're coming or going.

One thing you both must agree on though, VW will eventually bleed Audi dry.

I'll say it again as some of the posters are blind or can't read, the Honda civic had these taillights in 2000, about 3 years before Audi created it. How dare Honda copy Audi before Audi had a chance to design it eh?

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AUDIMAN4 - 10/8/2006 5:57:52 PM

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Just face the fact that Acura is not on the same level as Audi. All other arguments aside that purely subjective, that's the reality.

huu76 - 10/8/2006 7:59:51 PM

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Yeah, Honda/Acura both make money. That's the difference, and the Japanese make better cars.

senorgato - 10/8/2006 4:16:18 PM

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I would certainly buy the MDX over the Q7, price notwithstanding. Better packaging. Better performance.

And I'd buy any Acura over any comparable Audi anyday.

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AUDIMAN4 - 10/8/2006 5:59:32 PM

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Good luck finding one. Because if you want something above $50,000, Acura won't have what you're looking for. Same thing goes if you want something with a V8 or 12 cylinder engine.

Acura appeals to those seeking value, just like most Lexus customers. Value and luxury aren't interchangeable--these are imitation luxury cars.

huu76 - 10/8/2006 8:00:40 PM

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They have cheaper alternatives for V8/V12, it's called Viagra.

AUDIMAN4 - 10/8/2006 8:42:03 PM

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Acura makes what's called: bootleg rebadged Honda's with Acura badges that only North Americans are stupid enough to pay a premium for.

huu76 - 10/8/2006 11:33:08 PM

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Haha, bootleg? So now you're saying Acura is making cars w/o authorization from Honda?

You're starting to lose it.

You could say the same about people who buy a bare bones BMW/MB car simply for the badge and steadfastly think its a better car. Or is it going back to the "its German" factor? If that were the case, MB would be making a profit, and BMW would be selling (not contemplating) about selling their 1-series.

Thank you, come again!

ThaR8Don - 10/13/2006 4:26:35 AM

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You are lost. buy away..

huu76 - 10/8/2006 4:18:21 PM

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The MDX's rear looks more upscale with the creases and how the taillights bulge. The Q7 (like the Tourag, Jetta and Passat) looks fat (like the old Sable wagon) and the tailights look like they're stickers.

Oh well, sales will show who's right.

Lexus,
That is true, after all, they think a bare bones BMW/MB is high quality simply because of the name. Decadence has been there undoing.

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EL34 - 10/8/2006 5:14:18 PM

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Have you ever noticed there are no entertainers from Japan?

There are no bands, actors, recordings, movies that you can say ever made in impact or sold anything.

How does Honda and Acura think they are going to get away with this blant ripoff of Audi.

I will never buy another Japanese car for as long as I live, this is the last straw and they can go to hell.

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EL34 - 10/8/2006 5:19:38 PM

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All Japanese cars are looking like the guy that does the cartoon Pokemon also designs the cars.

Hello Kitty

To hell with these ripoffs.

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Hyundai - 10/8/2006 5:54:23 PM

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You ever noticed how badly MB ripped off the 7-Series interior? I guess you should hate German brands too? Oh wait, you will come up with an excuse for that! No use arguing with retards!

huu76 - 10/8/2006 8:06:30 PM

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EL,
You need to get out more.

LOL.
Can't beat the car, so now we have to take shots at an entire culture. Heil Hitler! Ha ha, that breeze I hear, is that you grasping at air?

Well, you can hate all you want, eventually BMW will become a division of Toyota Motor Corporation, probably their entry level Korean/China fighter.

AUDIMAN4 - 10/8/2006 8:35:40 PM

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Can't beat the car? Under your definition Japanese cars are superior to European cars across the board.

But yet, in other countries no one wants a Japanese luxury car. So, it's now American preferences vs. world preferences.

German cars win; no one wants Japanese imitation.

Hyundai - 10/8/2006 9:02:25 PM

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OMG! Has ANYBODY seen the S-Class interior here and compared it to the ORIGINAL, recent 7er?! And Germans are IMMUNE from ripping off their COMPETITORS' designs? As far as you ignorants are concerned, the Japanese are the competition for the Germans. Newsflash: All German makes compete against each other and want to swallow the other company whole if they had the chance to!

WAKE UP!

huu76 - 10/8/2006 11:36:04 PM

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9.12 million Toyota customers beg to differ.

How about we take a survey of all the Honda, Suzuki, Infiniti and Mazda customers?

Admit it, the Germans are overly reliant on their image. If they concentrated more on making a better car rather than a better brand, it wouldn't be so easy to fault them.

AUDIMAN4 - 10/8/2006 6:05:42 PM

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I visited Japan over the summer and after hearing the "entertainers" there, must admit THEY SUCK. They copy everything from Rock, to Rap/Hip Hop, to Country from American artists.

There isn't much focus on individuality in Japan--from a young age the Japanese are taught to conform to societal values, and expressions of individuality are highly frowned upon.

I think Japanese cars are a testament to this cultural indoctrination. They take German designs, ideology, and technology and run with them, then sell them to Americans at cheaper prices. It's actually an ingenious philosophy, albeit a self defeating one.

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Hyundai - 10/8/2006 9:07:55 PM

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Yes, Asian culture is predominantly a collective focus rather than an individual focus like the Western world has. However, Lexus design (interior, exterior, mechanics) is unique to Lexus rather than imitating other makes, although there is some "borrowing" like all companies to - doesn't matter what industry you to (why do people forget this?). Don't think for a second that Lexus (made for the AMERICAN market) doesn't have realistic business philosophies and that their practice is a direct reflection to the Asian culture of a "collective."

aznstuart - 10/8/2006 6:25:41 PM

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MDX all the way!!!

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EL34 - 10/8/2006 6:56:59 PM

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Will
What a racist remark. Besides. All German cars look like they are designed by boring old white men with low self-esteem. Perfect for you!

Will, isn't it a racist remark to say, German cars look like they are designed by boring old white men?

Other than the movie Godzilla, Hello Kitty and Pokemon can you tell of any artists that become popular?

I can't and there's a reason for it.

Look at that line that runs down the side of the new Camry and tell me the designers didn't just lift that off of the BMW X5.

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huu76 - 10/8/2006 8:15:26 PM

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If you're talking about the side crease, it came off of the last Camry. Gotta be getting pretty desperate comparing sedan/SUV doors.

Why'd Bangle copy the SC430, ugly ass and all? I won't even get into what MB has been copying lately, unless you want to play this game.

Hyundai - 10/8/2006 9:09:42 PM

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huu76, I think you should. PLEASE! I have to finish a research paper right now so I won't!

EL34 - 10/8/2006 7:02:22 PM

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JCF110, you keep looking at the back of those vehicles and you will begin to see the Audi is much more thought out and refined.

I know you can do it, just keep looking.

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delan - 10/8/2006 7:10:01 PMView My AgentSpace

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I am neither a fan of Acura nor Audi, so I'll just sit back and watch the fangirls tear each other's hair out. :-)

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AUDIMAN4 - 10/8/2006 9:06:00 PM

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You want to talk about blatant racism? How about Lexus not having any prominent Japanese executives representing US operations? All white last time I checked. I wonder why this would be, a Japanese company with none of their own in high level management.

Because Lexus wants to hide their Japanese roots from the typical American buyer, as they fear they will lose all credibility (which is true in every other market but the US, as no one wants an imitation).

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AUDIMAN4 - 10/9/2006 1:47:09 AM

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Lexus, a Japanese company has an all white Executives running the company. But yet, the Europeans don't have Japanese running their companies in Japan.

Racism (or self-hatism) at its best.

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huu76 - 10/9/2006 8:21:09 PM

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Again, can't knock the car, so we look for something else.

So why do Renault/Nissan have a Brazilian running their operations? Are they trying to parlay a Brazilian image?

Anyway, you ever hear of the term "expatriots", where foreign companies higher either locals or former citizens of a country to work where they are planning expansion?

And if you don't know Toyota owns Lexus, you've been living in a cave, considering Toyota/Lexus dealerships have traditionally always been together.

I failed to mention this also. I like the Buick Lucerne, but it suffers from "sticker looking" rear lights too.

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huu76 - 10/9/2006 8:41:26 PM

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I just reread your post about German companies having all Germans exccutives on their Japanese branches. Speaking of racism, would that not entail that the Germans are anti-Japanese (or anyone non-white?).

It appears the Japanese aren't afraid of hiring the best, regardless of their colour. Even the French don't care what colour you are as long as they think you're the best.

You should probably quit before you really sound crazy.

http://www.pressroom.com.au/pressroom/sample/images/executives/executives.htm
Wow, Australia doesn't mind having Japanese ppl on Toyota Australia's exec board. This "white thing" must be uniquely German.

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huu76 - 10/9/2006 8:43:45 PM

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To be fair to the Germans, it might be just you.

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AUDIMAN4 - 10/8/2006 8:39:23 PM

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And the Q7 will eat MDX sales in every other country. Oh nevermind, in every other country this will be badged a Honda and no one cross shops Audi with Honda.


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Hyundai - 10/8/2006 9:11:19 PM

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sweat?

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MF6453 - 10/10/2006 9:19:42 AM

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Audiman4, you are truly ignorant if you think no one cross shops Audi/Acura.

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EL34 - 10/8/2006 7:53:46 PM

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Will, what's so special about Japanese electronics?

That Acura looks like a bird monster from a Godzilla movie and keep looking and you will see the over exaggerated lines. I mean look at the hokey framing around the license plate and how about the split in the tail lights.

That line that runs from top to bottom in the middle must have been thought out by a 12 year old.

The Acura reminds me of that Subaru SUV thingy.

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huu76 - 10/8/2006 8:16:31 PM

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It's only ugly becuase Audi didn't think of it.