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Another New LS460 test from Automobile Magazine
Until now, there have been only three big dogs in the practical, daily driver, luxury four-door world: the V-8 versions of the BMW 7-series, the Mercedes-Benz S-class, and the Audi A8. Sure, the latest Jaguar XJ8, the Maserati Quattroporte, and the Bentley Continental Flying Spur are all superb sedans in their own manners, but the German troika define the genre.
That all changes for 2007 Read Article
Another New LS460 test from Automobile Magazine



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S4cabriofoxS4cabriofox - 10/25/2006 8:50:39 AM
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He really did keep saying how boring it looked, and that it's not special enough to look at to be a full-size luxury sedan.

He said something along the lines of how Lexus tried to perfect every detail of the car's design, and it has no faults, but it has no distinction, either. No character.

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AUDBMLEXMRCAUDBMLEXMRC - 10/25/2006 4:27:55 AM
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Anyway it shows that this is an excellent car! I promise, i'll drive it when it conmes to Switzerland showrroms and give my impressions. I'll be as objective.

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rom64rom64 - 10/25/2006 12:30:55 PM
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Although, i am not personally interested in lexus. I am a fair and objective consumer. I do have to give credit to lexus on the LS460. It is definately a big improvement in refinement and quality compared to the last generation.

I agree with will. However, the only discerning issue that causes alot of disagreement with buyers comes down to prestige and heritage.

At these luxury price points ($80,000+), the average buyer may not consider value as a huge selling factor with such vehicles as the S550 or 750i. Personally, i own a S500, and my next vehicle will most likely be the new S550 because of the sense of tradition and quality the mercedes marque has developed for over a century. This is just my opinion, i am in no way biased or ignorant towards lexus.

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BillBill - 10/25/2006 2:52:11 PM
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Rom64,

I bought an S550 a few months ago after hearing nothing but positive news about the car. A testdrive won me over. It's more comfortable than the 7 from BMW and Audi A8 and the joke that is called Infiniti Q. I also felt it was dynamically superior to the 7 and A8.

One of my neighbours down the street has the new LS. He let me sample a ride behind the wheel. Wonderful car. Very refined and smooth and quiet, just like the S-Class. It can't get any better than this. The LS and S-Class are so closely matched, but I felt that the S-Class had the edge dynamically and was a little more involving and just as comfortable. I felt the asking price was justified since I wasn't so impressed with the last S-Class. This generation however is in my honest opinion the best car in this class, followed by the Lexus.

So far, I love the car. How can I post pictures on this site? I have a white S550 with an AMG body kit and wheels.

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BillBill - 10/25/2006 2:54:18 PM
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By the way, I wish to add that my neighbour with the LS is a Lexus salesman! Really nice chap as well.

I'm thinking of a car for my daughter, and the new IS seems like a possibility. Anything I should know about it before going to the Lexus salesman?

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S4cabriofoxS4cabriofox - 10/25/2006 6:22:02 PM
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Nice. The AMG bodykit is beautiful on that car. The S550 is the best all-around car in the world.

The Jaguar XJ is surprisingly good, too. It has impeccable road manners, a beautiful interior and exterior (but you have to have a certain taste), and is more than fast enough. Very underrated- which explains its relatively low price. Under $70K for a loaded XJ8, which is what I'm buying my wife in January. Our first full-size sedan.


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S4cabriofoxS4cabriofox - 10/25/2006 9:26:58 PM
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Will, by the way, the S-Class is one of the most beautiful sedans on the road, and there's no denying that.

Like you, I really tried to dislike it when it came out. But I couldn't resist. It's the new big boy on the block.

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WillisWillis - 10/26/2006 9:06:56 AM
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Congratulations on the fine S-Class, Bill. I've been able to drive one as well and it is indeed a fine a car.

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answeranswer - 10/25/2006 1:15:17 PMView My AgentSpace
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Another positive comment about the car's stopping power.

Wasn't there an article stating that the LS had some braking issues?

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EL34iEL34i - 10/25/2006 5:59:35 PM
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A smart person would moonlight as a real estate agent and use the disposable income earned to purchase a 1995 Buick Century and several shares of Imclone stock!

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S4cabriofoxS4cabriofox - 10/25/2006 6:23:03 PM
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What is it with you, Buicks and the stock market?

I have a hunch that you have stock in Buick.


S4cabriofoxS4cabriofox - 10/26/2006 10:13:10 PM
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I have a hunch that EL34i may be his AutoSpies name at work or something, and EL34 is his name at home.

If he even has a job, let alone a home.

He probably goes to the library every day to use the computers.


huu76huu76 - 10/25/2006 8:51:08 PM
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The beginning of this article is so bias, if it wasn't a review on the LS, I'd stop reading there.

I barely see any A8s or new S' around Toronto. Infact, I see just as many Jaguars. I'm wondering if the E-class is starting to be MB's new seller, I see a lot more of them than the big sedan.


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S4cabriofoxS4cabriofox - 10/25/2006 9:24:31 PM
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The E has always been one of Mercedes's most popular models.

"Infact, I see just as many Jaguars."

Just as many Jags as what? A8s? S-Classes?

Around suburban Chicago, it's different. Here are the popularity rankings for luxury sedans:

1. LS430 (it's the cheapest and the smoothest)
2. S-Class (a very close second)
3. A8 / 7 Series tie
4. XJ (beautiful but exclusive)
5. Quattroporte (a distant fifth)


huu76huu76 - 10/25/2006 10:58:28 PM
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Yup. The last gen S-class were all over, and you'd only see the occasinoal E. Now it's the other way around, although I don't blame them, the E is better looking.

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smshnicksmshnick - 10/26/2006 1:21:41 PM
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E-class has always been MB's biggest seller. Historically, they've sold more E-classes worldwide than anything (those sales include taxis). Don't you lexus fans think the LS's styling is a bit bland? The front end is sooo sedate and the sideview reminds of the 7-series. The interior is mostly nice, but the center console is too plasticky. There's a wall there of big plastic buttons. I'm convinced the car is an excellent value and you can get it loaded up with toys, but that doesn't make a great car, it does make for a great home stereo though...

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S4cabriofoxS4cabriofox - 10/26/2006 10:14:55 PM
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"Don't you lexus fans think the LS's styling is a bit bland? The front end is sooo sedate and the sideview reminds of the 7-series. The interior is mostly nice, but the center console is too plasticky. There's a wall there of big plastic buttons."

I agree, but some Lexus fans just can't seem to wrap their minds around the fact that it's not the best car in the world. A8 and S-Class interiors just make you feel more special... and, more rich, no matter how intangible that is.


mitchatlexusofmarinmitchatlexusofmarin - 10/26/2006 7:16:18 PM
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Here is an incredibly well written review of the LS460L by a guy who recently purchased one from me.

http://www.clublexus.com/forums/showthread.php?t=244805

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smshnicksmshnick - 10/26/2006 8:27:08 PM
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Who's going to write an unbiased review on a car that they JUST bought?!?!? Lemme guess, it's the greatest car he's ever driven....

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mitchatlexusofmarinmitchatlexusofmarin - 10/26/2006 8:42:04 PM
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Maybe reading it would help answer your question...
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