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Based on looks ALONE, who wins this beauty contest and why?

Agent001 submitted on 10/07/2007 Official AutoSpies Timestamp: 12:09 PM
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Tags: Audi RS4, BMW M3, Lexus IS-F, Mercedes C63

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Based on looks ALONE, who wins this beauty contest and why?

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STJ88 - 10/7/2007 12:30:12 PM

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On look i got to go with the IS-F.

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Agent001 - 10/7/2007 12:34:32 PMView My AgentSpace

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But where do the others rank and WHY is the design of the IS-F best for you?

Don't be lazy, explain why.

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adamsaf723 - 10/7/2007 4:12:43 PM

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M3 is the most subtle, which is probably why I like it.

The IS-F is nice, but I don't think it stands out enough from the the IS350 for people to know or really care.

The C63 is trying to do too much, and it looks to busy. It has a great engine, but I think it looks kind of tact on for a car at its price point.

The Audi is too Audi. It has very discrete lines which make it so you'll either love or hate it. The Audi really don't do much for me though.

EnnNorak - 10/8/2007 9:24:09 AM

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Tradeoffs make me undecided. The Cadillac CTS (not mentioned) and Mercedes C-class look best but the C is to small and has excessively firm seats and ride. The CTS has the most room for the driver and front passsenger. Audi's Quattro with the Torsen center differential is the best AWD system. Audi and Lexus IS have the most comfortable front seats. The 300 h.p. direct injection CTS engine has the most power. LSD is available only on the IS and CTS but the CTS is the only one to offer LSD in combination with AWD. The CTS appears to offer the best bang for the buck.

EnnNorak - 10/8/2007 9:27:59 AM

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I just noticed that the comaprison was between hot versions of these cars so my engine power statement above is incorrect. I was comparing all the more ordinary versions of these cars which I drove recently.

EvoAudi - 10/7/2007 12:40:09 PMView My AgentSpace

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On looks ALONE, my list goes like this

1-Mercedes-Benz C63 a perfect balance of aggressive and simple design. Uses just enough boy racer grills, intakes, exhaust outlets, and spoilers etc, without going over the edge.

2-BMW M3 Sedan uses the front of the coupe which removes most of the econobox styling but still has the taillights from the regular 3-series which makes this #2. other than the taillights the sedan looks just as amazing as the coupe.

3-Audi RS4 has a bigger "Race Car" Look/Feel than the other 3 cars but is just not boy racer/showy enough to be popular with the type of people who buy these cars.

4-Lexus IS-Fugly, uses a huge bump in the hood showing the V8 which pretty much says-I'm not manly so i use a V8 to make up for it- Goes over the fine line between cool boy racer and Rice, La Fonda's Honda etc.

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Fan1234 - 10/7/2007 1:02:30 PM

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Um, when a non-german manufacturer puts a hood bump or vents on the front panel or stacked pipes it's considered "racerish and uncool", Do you realize how silly the vents on the hood of the bmw look? And guess what bmw has a hood bump too! DING DING DING!!! I am almost guarantee if "L" was changed to a "bmw" emblem, everyone would be raving this car. You guys are german fanboys who are badge lovers. The IS is an excellent car and their design does scream sports car like it should. If you want something quiet and not sporty, get a C-Class, but dont say that the IS doesn't look good -- cause it's crap.

zorbeeze - 10/7/2007 1:08:16 PM

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they all use V8's, what the heck is your point?

EvoAudi - 10/7/2007 2:10:00 PMView My AgentSpace

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my point is that it isn't a small bump, if it was smaller and not as ugly it would be #3.

henbmw - 10/7/2007 6:41:57 PM

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I'm not defending evo's views but you sound like a fanboy yourself when you make accusations whenever someone doesn't like the Lexus. Maybe it is overdone, maybe the giant intake in front of the door belongs on a Dodge srt-10 Viper rather than a Lexus sports sedan. The IS-F has the right ingredients, they just didn't 'cook' it right.

I95SPEEDINGTICKETS - 10/7/2007 12:49:31 PM

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On looks alone, ill have to go with the RS4.

I feel is has the most composed look out of all 4, it does not SCREAM for attention, yet one look at it will tell you it is not a regular A4.

Now i am yet to see the other 3 on the road but even on the Comp Screen the RS4 is the best design for me.

The next would have to be the C63 as it sports the next "Least Attention Seeking Bodykit" { On paper at least }

Third would be the IS-F. Now let me be clear on this, i absolutely despise that silly vent on the Front fender behind the Front Wheels but it still has fewer bumbs and lumps and vents when placed next to the M3 and i really like the look and proportions of the IS series Lexus.

I guess Last Place would be the M3, just because i "Do Not Like" fussy lines and overcomplicated designs. I always liked the M series because they were somewhat discreet compared to their MB counterparts but this vehicle is so overdone it reminds me of the Incredible hulk morphing and bursting through his "now undersized" shirt.

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no1listensanyway - 10/7/2007 12:53:26 PMView My AgentSpace

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1. C63 - there is just something about that AMG package. They always make the car look sporty yet classy.

2. M3- you really can't go wrong with the bimmer, it looks great from all angles, especially the back.

3. A4 - I always had a problem with the A4 because I felt it was very feminine. The RS styling helps a little bit, but the A5 is now the prize for Audi.

4. ISf - The regular IS looks great, I dont know why Lexus took the approach they did. They took a perfectly good looking car and put on all sorts of things that a teenager would do in thier garage. The car is lowered way too much, and sorry guys those exhausts are just cheesy. Performance could be another story.

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S4cabriofoxone - 10/7/2007 3:11:55 PMView My AgentSpace

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Why did you just call it "A4?" That pisses me off a bit...

Hyundai - 10/7/2007 3:55:51 PM

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It is almost like you went out of your way to call it an "A4". Audi's are in fact the most masculine brand of BMW, MB, Lexus, and Audi.

GTR35 - 10/10/2007 12:19:00 PMView My AgentSpace

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You missed one, look at my list it's almost identical:

1. MB C63 (Perferct balance of sportiness and classiness)
2. BMW M3 (Looks simple but its a beemer)
3. VW RS4 (Did I mention that I HATE audis)
4. Pontiac Aztec
5. Toyota IS-FFUgly (That S*iT is Ugly)

Auto_expert - 10/7/2007 12:54:43 PM

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Can you guess which one doesn't belong? I can.

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Hyundai - 10/7/2007 3:56:23 PM

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You?

Audi4Life - 10/7/2007 12:59:16 PM

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on looks alone:

1) rs4 - i think the exterior is well balanced with a nice front and back and nothing that can dissapoint your eye aswell as the interior which i'd say is just perfect, with not too many gadgets making it nice and simple

2) M3 i think its just as good as the rs4 but theres something in the bmw design that i do not like

3) IS-F i dont like their automatic gearbox with all the zig zaggy transmission selector, then i dont like those tailpipes... i know most can say so what you can always change them but still i look at the production version

4) somehow personally i felt dissapointed with the mercedes c class, i expected more from design and interior

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henbmw - 10/7/2007 6:44:01 PM

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Maybe the part of the BMW design you don't like is that it isn't an Audi

Fan1234 - 10/7/2007 1:05:09 PM

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1. rs4 - best exterior front/back/profile, all around great interior, great wheels, you really can't make this car any much better looking.
2. IS-F - again, all around great, a little overdone, interior is best of the group, and a little different but good
3. C63 - great front, average back, interior is a little disappointing, expected more from MB.
4. M3 - disappointed on EVERY angle, there isn't ONE angle this sedan looks good in. Just hideous, non-flowing lines and what not. Very non-bmw like. A complete failure.

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zorbeeze - 10/7/2007 1:06:01 PM

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On looks alone:
1- C63, has classic lines yet at the same time portrays a verry aggressive look
2- RS4, classic lines as well but looks a bit bland in certain angles
3- IS-F, imo the most controversial of the 4, but a bit too ricey when compared to the Audi and Benz
4- M3, I hated the looks of the new M3 from the minute it came out and after seeing it in person my opinion has not changed, it looks a bit deformed

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M53R - 10/7/2007 1:06:38 PMView My AgentSpace

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Heres my list for the exterior:

1.BMW M3

The headlights imo look very agressive alone without the rest of the kit, which give the car 'powerful' look. Something to be feared. The front kit looks good and unlike the M5/M6's 'smile' this looks 'angry' so the front is the best by far. As for the rear, the kit is very nice but the taillights need a slight change. Mirrors and side are best in business, along with the rims.

2.MB C63 AMG

Typical AMG styling, it just screams "I'm fast!". I like the understated looking headlights, with the huge air intakes which change the understated look to an agressive looking beast. The rear lights look ok, with the huge typical AMG exhausts making it stand out from the normal C. The wheel arches also give the car a boy racer look which is all good. Rims are ok, I prefer more spoked rims, and I dont like the mirrors.

3.Audi RS4

Looks for understated for this segment, which isnt a bad thing, but it keeps it away from the number 1 spot. The front kit and headlights look very simple with a lack of curves that make the M3 and C63 look more agressive. The taillights dont look good enough for me, but the rear kit looks very nice, but 2 more exhausts wouldnt hurt :). The side doesnt look that much different from the normal A4, but the rims are very nice.

4.Lexus IS-F

The only car in the bunch that has good looking headlights and taillights, but the bodykit totally spoils it. The front kit looks very tacky, looks almost like its gonna fall off. You can notice this from a side picture. The side skirt doesnt look good, and the rear kit looks like an extended version of the IS350, but with stacked exhausts that look weird.

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EvoAudi - 10/7/2007 2:54:45 PMView My AgentSpace

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The signature on Audi RS cars is 2 oval outlets, the regular S cars get 2 by 2

S4cabriofoxone - 10/7/2007 3:13:09 PMView My AgentSpace

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The RS4's exhausts are huge- there's no need for quads.

SevorbeupstryIsBack - 10/8/2007 2:00:28 PM

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The first thing I would do if I bought an RS4 is change the exhaust. It's too quiet. Eisenmann, MTM, Sportec, ... they all sound so much better!

On an M3 I would install the latest version of Racing Dynamics. I haven't heard it yet but people say the V8 sound is fully unleashed. Just like an M5 with Kriessieg exhaust.

S4cabriofoxone - 10/9/2007 11:20:43 PMView My AgentSpace

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Have you ever pressed the RS4's "S" button? It solves any exhaust quibbles.

A writer for TTAC summed up "S" mode well: "Forget violence. You are now driving war."

germeezy2 - 10/7/2007 1:27:14 PM

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IMO the C63 is # 1 but that awaits to be determined because the pics of the new S-line A4 show that the next gen A4 on the MDS chassis could be very close.
The M3 is agressive in the front but looks contrived a little bit from behind. And no jokes aside the IS is a car I would have a hard time meeting a client or business partner in. Its flat embarassing and the IS350 is much better looking.


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DaHarder - 10/7/2007 1:28:58 PM

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1. The M3 simply looks too small/compact (almost compressed) when viewed in profile, and those very Asian looking taillights really have no place on a German vehicle.

2. The C-Class appears to have been a serious victim of the new pedestrian safety laws in Europe, because the front end literally looks like a block of metal, devoid of any sleekness what-so-ever. I also find much of the detaling to b e way overdone, as it looks like every model comes standard with a 'bling package'.

3. The IS-F has a truly gorgeous profile, but is cursed with one of the most immature body kits ever placed one a premium vehicle... and those exhaust tips... YIKES!

4. The Audi is easily the best looking of this crowd, with clean (if somewhat dated, though soon to be upgraded look), and a timeless/classic appeal.

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SevorbeupstryIsBack - 10/8/2007 2:01:53 PM

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"very Asian looking taillights really have no place on a German vehicle."

I agree with you, but take those lights in Blackline or Clearline (I like Blackline the most) combined with ANY colour and it transforms the car!

XYZZ - 10/9/2007 3:49:28 AM

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"...those very Asian looking taillights really have no place on a German vehicle."


so now the unbridled PREJUDICES come out! LOL!

get used to it guys. the "traditional" euro taillights have gotten old and dated. asia brings some FRESH NEW designs.

and, the germys are also copying asian headlight cues.

there was "high art" in asia CENTURIES europeans got beyond scrawls, cave drawings, icon art, etc. and asians long knew that eyes make the biggest impact.

headlights are the "eyes" of auto design. asians lead in this design area. for now.

Bmw8ter - 10/7/2007 1:29:34 PM

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The new Mercedes C class, IMO, is has the best design of the 4. The prominent wheel arches in the front make it stand out from the others. The dealer where I live, sells Audi, BMW, and Mercedes all on the same lot; and honestly, the former 2 just don't compare to the Merc. I can't say much of anything about the IS-F at this point.

My wife used to drool over the new BMW 3 Series coupe design, but after seeing the new Mercedes C Class, she has a new favorite German. The interior looks so much nicer too; I can't say I'm a big fan of how the navigation screen is hidden behind that cheap looking cover, though.

Now, I haven't test driven the new Mercedes C class, or any Mercedes, for that matter, in a while. Correct me if I'm wrong, but did I see the same silly autoshifter that the Dodges and Jeeps use? That you have to move left and right? I test drove a Hemi Jeep with that shifter, and I thought it was the most ridiculous autoshifter I had ever used.



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MaindrianPace - 10/7/2007 1:37:24 PM

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AMG C63:
Looks sharp, muscular and athletic. New C-class is one of best looking Merc's in along time. Also looks a bit like Haks DTM car!

M3:
I would normally pick the BMW top automatically 'cos I'm a fanboy and all that - but I'm used to the E90 and it just doesnt look right to me with the Coupe nose! I'll get used to it I guess. Looks agressive and purposeful

IS-F:
Haven't really seen a colour on it tht I like, and it does look a little flabby and clumsey, but the shape is appealing and it's a brath of fresh air from the standard german offerings which are 'predictably' styled.

RS4:
Still don't like the gaping mouth! Looks a little dull - I don't much like rice, but under-statement only goes so far. "smart" and "sporty" don't mix particularly well with the RS4, like a city banker running for a train!

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senorgato - 10/7/2007 1:57:15 PM

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1. C63 - the most balanced look of all without looking like it's trying too hard

2. M3 - I like the coupe nose on the sedan, but I still loathe that rear-end.

3. IS-F - there's a big difference in the Lexus' hood bulge and the BMW's. "Big-nosed" comes to mind.

4. RS4 - does absolutely nothing for me at all.

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deepwater - 10/7/2007 2:50:43 PM

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1. RS4: The big wheels and the big brakes predict good brake performance and good handling. The "small letters of "RS" predicts a safety 4WD with perfect traction. Let us see the next RS4.
2. C63: AMG tells everything about the speed. Good luxury execution about sport sedans.
3. M3: It should be more exciting, but nice. Interior is not enough, the manual transmission is poor. Paddle shifts?
4. IS-F: Lexus shall learn much more about the sporty design. The inlets aren't enough sporty, wheel arches must be sharper, he wheel design cannot be so standard.
The exhaust pipes are terrible. The tail and rear bumper come from a Japanese comics. Classical sporty appearence would be "more".


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enthusiastx11 - 10/7/2007 3:07:16 PM

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1. M3. cohesive, aggressive design. instantly recognizable.

2. C63AMG. elegant with a devilish side.

3. RS. nice but a little boring

4. IS-F. lacking in integrity. weirdly stretched front end. 10ft tall rear. looks aftermarket.

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S4cabriofoxone - 10/7/2007 3:22:31 PMView My AgentSpace

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Exteriors:

1. RS4 / C63 AMG tie -

I think that, next to the urQuattro and R8, the RS4 is the coolest car Audi has ever produced. There's something about RS vehicles that I just find much more interesting than M or AMG. It looks incredible in dark colors, or light colors, or any color, and the bodykit keeps the B7 design from looking dated.

The C63 AMG is a great design- it's a little dumpy in the rear, but the front end more than makes up for it. This new Benz will look fantastic in black.

3. BMW M3 -

I find the coupe slightly bland. However, I love the sedan. Just about as good as the C63 and RS4, although not quite, because the hood bulge and taillamps take away from it.

4. Lexus IS-F -

I haven't seen it in person, so I can't be sure, but I absolutely hate that hood. They may as well completely redesign the car so it looks proportionate.

Interiors:

1. Lexus IS-F -

It's very similar to the treatment to what the Germans do, what with the small badging everywhere, the sporty seats, etc. I gave it the nod over the RS4 because the new A4's interior makes the RS4's look old. IS-F isn't especially sporty on the inside, but it'll do.

2. Audi RS4 -

It may not look amazing on the inside, but being the oldest in this bunch, it's still the best-built and has the most expensive materials. That's very impressive. It certainly makes you feel special when you sit in it.

3. BMW M3 -

It's not a massive improvement over the 3 Series interior, but I love the carbon fiber weave on the dash. Unlike some others, it isn't processed and glossy- it has a similar texture to leather trim. Very classy, very unique.

4. Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG -

I don't care how well it's built. The center console just looks cheap. That's it. I expected much more from the makers of the stunning S-Class interior.

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S4cabriofoxone - 10/7/2007 3:25:31 PMView My AgentSpace

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I screwed up my first sentence for the IS-F interior. It should be:

"It's very similar to the treatment that the Germans do..."

S4cabriofoxone - 10/7/2007 3:50:05 PMView My AgentSpace

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I don't think de-boosting should be allowed in this article. It's purely opinionated. Unless someone says something incredibly stupid, only boosting up should be available.

Rupert - 10/7/2007 5:22:37 PMView My AgentSpace

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That's because you talk crap.

S4 - the "carbon fibre" in the M3 is actually woven leather. It's not carbon fibre at all, which is why it has a woven appearance. Same deal on the Z4 M.

S4cabriofoxone - 10/7/2007 9:53:49 PMView My AgentSpace

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Oh, good to know. Somehow I had gotten the notion that it was woven carbon. It's still very interesting, though.

henbmw - 10/7/2007 3:44:34 PM

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Probably the worst reasoning I have ever seen for making a comparison list.

You have to be 6 years old to think "It has LED Headlights" is the main reason why the RS4 the next gen RS4 will be so good.

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S4cabriofoxone - 10/7/2007 3:49:06 PMView My AgentSpace

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The B8 RS4 will not be out before the IS-F, houston. I'd be surprised if it even came out as a prototype by the end of 2008.

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henbmw - 10/7/2007 3:51:28 PM

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Oops, my bad. I thought this was the last comparison of these 4. It is based on looks...

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AgentOrange - 10/7/2007 3:34:19 PMView My AgentSpace

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Based on looks alone:
The M3 - because it LOOKS like it could kick everyone elses ass.

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Will_ - 10/7/2007 3:49:21 PM

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1. Audi S4: cleanest and most cohesive design with well-integrated performance add-ons.
2. Lexus IS-F: the complete opposite, but I still think it's a good thing. For one, there will be no mistaking a regular IS350 for an IS-F, which many reviewers find problematic with other brands.
3. BMW M3: dramatic change on the front-end is a plus, too bad about the rear being left the same.
4. Mercedes C63 AMG: most aggressive front-end. Not a bad-looking car, but someone had to be last...

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S4cabriofoxone - 10/7/2007 4:01:35 PMView My AgentSpace

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Did you say "S4" on purpose?

S4cabriofoxone - 10/7/2007 4:02:45 PMView My AgentSpace

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I know I sound like a broken record- but in case you haven't seen one, the RS4 looks super-hot in person... this picture doesn't do it justice.

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henbmw - 10/7/2007 6:11:03 PM

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Very true, its hard to to gawk at a RS4 when it drives by.

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S4cabriofoxone - 10/7/2007 4:05:32 PMView My AgentSpace

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That's a pretty bland shot of the RS4. I think you should've used this one instead:

http://blog.vehiclevoice.com/Audi%20RS4%20Ritz%20Blog.JPG

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JUGNU - 10/7/2007 5:25:29 PMView My AgentSpace

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First of all s4cabriofox

don't be a lawyer of Audi EVERYWHERE. I know u like Audi but u r the only one who is just too much. So relax mate. Everybody has an opinion.
If i am no mistaken u placed Lexus IS-F last right?
but nobody questioned u (even we know it's not even out yet with it's official detailed gallery and u haven't seen it in person) because it's your opinion.

but as in the opposite case when others placed Audi last u have so many reasons and is all over to defend.

Therefore I mean don't be too much.


Now On topic:

Strictly on looks alone: Exterior

1) MB C63 AMG: It's the best combination of traditional/civilized and sporty design.And the greatest thing about it's design is that designers have not deviated from the main theme and kept the Signature AMG looks.

2 ) Lexus IS-F: Only lost the first place because of it's weird hood bulge which looks irritating from the side view. Rest is just clean and sexy lines with beautiful front and rear fascia.

3) Audi RS4: Well it's the oldest in the group and certainly showing it's age now. It just doesn't look fresh and doesn't have that appeal as of it's rivals but still nice and decent flowing design.

4) BMW M3: It’s something unpleasant. An overdone design. Front end looks nice very aggressive and muscular but just doesn’t go with the dull and hideous rear end. The little quad exhaust pipes just doesn't suit M3 sedan (but very much the coupe).

Interior :( Doesn’t need much explanation here)
1)Lexus IS-F: Beautiful detailed interior with nice lighting.
2)BMW M3:Whatever it is, I Like the look which is simple and very focused (Driver/performance oriented).
3)Audi RS4:Everything is nice but a bit old.
4)MB C63 AMG:Just plain ugly, bland and cheapish.

JUGNU

S4cabriofoxone - 10/7/2007 10:00:02 PMView My AgentSpace

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"don't be a lawyer of Audi EVERYWHERE. I know u like Audi but u r the only one who is just too much. So relax mate. Everybody has an opinion.
If i am no mistaken u placed Lexus IS-F last right?
but nobody questioned u (even we know it's not even out yet with it's official detailed gallery and u haven't seen it in person) because it's your opinion."

That's because I explicitly stated that in fact it was, yes, my opinion.

"but as in the opposite case when others placed Audi last u have so many reasons and is all over to defend.

Therefore I mean don't be too much."

I didn't once question somebody's opinion in this article. You can look through all my posts--I just did. The only thing I did that was even close to that was telling nicad that this is a bad picture of the RS4 (it is), and it looks amazing on the road.

What's the big deal? So I like it, and I don't like the way the IS-F looks. There is no point to you questioning my love for the RS4. If there was one sedan I could have, in the entire world, that would undoubtedly be it. But I'd still own any of these cars in a heartbeat- yes, even the IS-F. Who could say no to a 5.0L V8 with 417hp in a small sedan?

M53R - 10/8/2007 5:43:48 AMView My AgentSpace

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"But I'd still own any of these cars in a heartbeat- yes, even the IS-F. Who could say no to a 5.0L V8 with 417hp in a small sedan?"

Me, because Im happy with a 4.0L V8 with 414.. ;)

MeanVulcan - 10/7/2007 4:26:07 PM

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... another dumb post.

Which is the better looking?
...Audi!
no, BMW!
no,no,no,Lexus!
your stupid!
no, your mommy is!
I'm telling!!!

So much for content control and listening to end users!

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SamFriedman - 10/7/2007 4:54:21 PM

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For me the rating goes:
1- BMW M3- This car is beautiful, as if the 335 was not sexy enough, now comes the M3 with the same sexiness, but with some muscle. When I see this car i feel like its going to eat me for lunch, its scary looking but in an amazing way.

2- Audi RS4- This car is so beautiful, the flared wheel arches really make this car stand out from its lil bro the S4. The oval exhausts look great and it sounds great. I just wish the American version came with those amazing Recaro seats that comes in the European version.

3. Mercedes c63- Not a huge fan of Mercedes, except for the E class, but this car is nice, I like the vents on the sides of the front bumper, they look great. THe exhaust looks a bit over done for me, and as far as driving, im sure its fast, but big deal, it takes no skill to drive a merc.

4. Lexus ISF- Screw this car... unless you like driving on the clouds, like most Lexus's make you feel. As far as looks, if it isnt in that electric blue or whatever you wouldnt be able to tell so easily that its an F, this is an ugly car, go get a toyota corolla, put a lexus symbol on it and write F!

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Rupert - 10/7/2007 5:20:51 PMView My AgentSpace

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Best Exterior - C63 AMG
Worst Exterior - IS-F
Best Interior - RS4.
Worst Interior - M3 (especially with the "carbon fibre" which is actually woven leather)

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Rupert - 10/7/2007 5:24:20 PMView My AgentSpace

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For the money I would expect a little more bling in the C63, rather than the dull plastic. At least chrome ring the buttons...

r15mohd - 10/7/2007 5:21:35 PM

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exterior...

1- its a tie between the IS-F and the C63 for me. the front end of the MB is just drop dead gorgeous, but as everyone else stated...the rear kills the design. the IS-F, i love the rear, exhausts as well...prefer "different" and thats what it delivers. however, i have been disappointed in the front bumper ever since it came out. and if i ever owned one, i would have to custom a front if none was available that looked appealing to me.

3-rs4...i have always had a thing for Audi's especially the a4-bodies. and ever since the inception of the big front grill, its looked like a mean beast

4-M3, the rear bumper isnt to appealing to me, and i have never liked the 4-door rear of the 3-series currently. on the front, the dent in the hood really upsets me more so than the IS-F. it pretty mcuh expresses the lack of work put into the design on the hood. all they had to do was make the hood free flowing.

as far as interiors...

1-is-f
2-rs4
3-m3
4-c63

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SevorbeupstryIsBack - 10/7/2007 5:35:58 PM

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This is soo difficult!

The M3 sedan looks good up front but the back looks hideous.. the C63 has very nice typical AMG-styling. A Euro-spec RS4 looks fantastic but it is starting to look dated, especially with the new B8 A4. If there was an RS version of that car, it would get my vote.

Interiorwise the Audi looks best, but only after I put some nice Individual options in it. The same applies for the M3 and C63.

In the end, I'll probably end up with the C63 AMG. But not some model you see in the leaflet or on the internet. It will be MY C63 AMG fully equiped with all the AMG Manufaktur stuff. (such as full leather interior, carbon pieces everywhere,...etc)

Or maybe an M3 sedan? Pff I don't know anymore. An M3 sedan in Individual blue or black with blackline taillight should look pretty damn good!


Oh, I almost forgot about the IS-F. It screams wannabe and it lacks so much heritage and soul, something that is very important to Europeans.

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SevorbeupstryIsBack - 10/8/2007 2:09:37 PM

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"The M3 sedan looks good up front but the back looks hideous.."

No, I take that back.

In fact I think the back end look fantastic, but not on the press photos. The bland silver combined with those hideous taillights are possible the worst combination to put on photo. Especially when the front looks so fantastic.

In gray, white, ... doesn't really matter what colour.. the M3 sedan with blackline kit, some carbon fibre detailing (Hartge, ACS, .. are already working on kits) and a Racing Dynamics exhaust it takes the cake for me.

Voila

Schwitzle - 10/7/2007 6:25:58 PM

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The C63 wins on looks alone. When you buy a "specially tuned" edition, it should look a lot different than what the standard models look like. As soon as you see a C63 you know this is a special car and is different than any other C. It is a flashy car, no question, but screams power and will have at least 50 more horsepower than all the other cars we are talking about. The "6.3" symbol near the door lets you know right away and it looks great the wat they did it. The same goes for the RS4 which also looks very different than the S4 which is important. Now that the A4 can get an S-line package, the S4 and A4 (s-line) look very similiar and it is important that audi makes the RS4 different than booth. The front air dams and the air vents on each side really scream power. And when you see a V8 symbol it really makes you think how they cramed a V8 into that size of a car. While the IS-F and the BMW M3 may be great driving cars, on looks, they don't do that much for me at all. The M3, with the exception of the raise in the hood and the M trademark on the side, doesn't look any better than a loaded 335Ci. Now that Cadillac has the same type of trim on each side BMW should start to look for an updated design. We've also seen this on the M5 for the last 3 years so I am surprised they didn't come up with something new like they did for the M6 (which has a clean line and the M logo). The IS-F mufflers are great, but anyone can put a bigger front fascia on a regular IS and it would look very similiar.

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S4cabriofoxone - 10/7/2007 10:03:57 PMView My AgentSpace

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"When you buy a "specially tuned" edition, it should look a lot different than what the standard models look like."

You're telling me the C63 AMG looks a lot different from, say, a C300 or C350 Sport? A normal person just wouldn't be able to tell the difference unless they were both parked next to each other. Don't get me wrong, I love the new C's design--especially the front--but this AMG kit is very similar to all the other AMG cars that have come out.

S4cabriofoxone - 10/8/2007 11:04:41 AMView My AgentSpace

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That had nothing to do with the RS4.

All of these cars, except the IS-F, look similar to their standard versions. You can get the AMG kit, the S-Line kit and the M kit on each one of the Germans. I guess that guarantees the IS-F's distinction, but did it have to be THAT distinctive?

So, what I'm saying is, if you want to be seen and known for your car's performance, these are not for you.

BTW, the RS4 posts are truly what I think. I would have it over any of these. Why? Well, I'd take it over the M3 because that's too ubiquitous, and it can't get through the winter quite as well. I'd take it over the C63 AMG because the RS4 has a manual transmission and, once again, AWD. For IS-F, see C63. Except I'd also take the RS4 over the IS-F for looks.

henbmw - 10/7/2007 6:34:35 PM

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1. MB C63 AMG

Great design; follows progressive ideas found in the S-Class. Aggressive front-end accentuated by gaping intakes and brake ducts. Looks mean and powerful yet still elegant. Love the rear-end, despite some dissent, looks clean and modern.

2. tie between M3 and RS4

I really had trouble with this, each one has elements that are design genius yet the cars as whole are let down by minor (very minor) flaws. The Audi has a great flat rear-end that shortens the visual length of the car and gives it that powered-by-rocket look (the e46 M3 defined that look). The M3 front-end looks as if its asking you to race it; intimidating and mean. I will admit the M3 Coupe would take top honors for me, it is a near-perfect demonstration of flowing design with an edge. Both the RS4 and the M3 sedan are excellent designs that signify some of the best engineering Germany has to offer.

3. Lexus IS-F

I hate to jump on the bandwagon but the car is just overdone. The bumpers are too bulbous, the intakes too large, the exhaust is over-the-top. It really looks like this is Lexus' first time at this, and it just so happens it is. If they scale it down next time around, it may have a better chance against this stellar competition.

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TheSailor - 10/7/2007 6:57:05 PMView My AgentSpace

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Hmm... This is a tough one, because I really don't think these cars should be judged on appearance! Or at least I wouldn't choose one of the cars based on it's looks at least! Anyways, my picks:

1. Mercedes - I know I've said that the C-class is a bit bland in it's standard trim, but that AMG-treatment have done wonders to the design! An über-sedan as these have to look aggresive yet subtle and the Mercedes pulls that off perfect!

Now this is the hard part, because I don't really like the design of any of the remaining three that much, but here goes:

2. BMW M3 - I'm not the biggest fan of the E90, some of the design elements doesn't fit the car at all (read; the rear lights). I don't really like the M3-bonnet with the vents (the powerdome is okay but the vents need to go). But the M3 earns second spot because of it's aggressive body kit.

3. Audi RS4 - The RS4 is an amazing car, but the design of the A4-model is getting old and the car just looks a little dated compared to the competition(actually, the new model does aswell apart from the "star trek" party piece head lamps which I don't like). The car still looks like it means buisness though and I wouldn't mind owning one...

4. IS-F - Well... I know somebody is going to wanna hang me for this, but the car looks like something you find in a cereal box, not in a high end brand line up! I really can't make myself like that design - It's just not working!

Now, as to the interior design, that is another story:

1. MB - I know most people don't like it's interior, but I like it... And since I'm not most people, I don't care, I like it!

2. Lexus - Though i loath the exterior design, I have to say that the interior is quite nice! It looks much more like a high end interior than that of the two cars behind it!

3. Audi - the interior of the Audi does not offend anybody, but it lacks any actual design! It is quite apparant that the interior was engineered, not designed! It doesn't look like something out of a car in this price bracket!

4. BMW - Well, the 3-series interior is just really boring! It looks a little better with the iDrive, but it's still boring! The interior looks like something you'd expect to find in a Passat or maybe an Opel Vectra!


Now that is purely based on looks, if I had to choose one of the cars, it would definately be the Audi RS4 or the BMW M3! I've driven an RS4 and know just how fantastic it is, as to the BMW, I have no doubt that that car will be at least as good as the RS4... The other two are not competitive in my opinion (or at least I'm quite certain that the IS-F won't be and I know that MB is barking up a completely different tree)...

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Agent001 - 10/7/2007 7:47:01 PMView My AgentSpace

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OK Boys, my turn to pick…

Exteriors:

1. C63 AMG

When they do it right, Mercedes sure knows how to bend metal. Aggressive, Classic, Timeless

Make mine white with a panoramic roof

2. BMW M3 -

Just a hair behind the C63…Rear taillights don’t do it for me…wish they looked like the coupes.

3. Lexus IS-F -

The most Italian (Alfa-like) looking of the bunch with just a few mistakes…side panels could have looked cooler.

4. Audi RS4 -

Too plain Jane for my taste…could drive right by you and you wouldn’t know the difference. You’d sure hear it though!

Interiors:

1. Lexus IS-F -

Looks the most expensive in real life.

2. C63 -

Really like what they did on the inside of the new C-Class although materials are cheap looking.

3. BMW M3 -

Best human interface of the bunch...loses a couple notches due to the fact it does not look that different in quality from the standard 3.

4. Audi RS4 -

Best ACTUAL material quality but it as boring as waiting in line at the DMV.

001

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