Behind the design of the BMW 7 Series

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— FactsRule (View Profile)

Posted on 8/9/2008 9:05:22 AM | | Votes: 1   

Why are some people so obsessive over some puny details. Oh look the tail lights look similar lets bash so and so for doing that. The truth is that most if not all manufacturers copy design cues here and there. As long as it isn't identical who really cares? For example the ls profile looks like a BMW's, xf side view looks like that of the gs. It happens all the time because you can't necessarily come up with a completely new design for every car out there! BTW i am not a BMW fanboy I personally prefer Infiniti and Lexus but that doesn't mean I can't appreciate other brands for what they are.

— zairnaim (View Profile)

Posted on 8/9/2008 11:15:46 AM | | Votes: 6   

The back of the LS is an evolution of the E65 7 series .The previous LS model's rear was a carbon copy of the older S-Class.
The front of the current LS is greatly influenced by the front of the current S-Class.

So in a nutshell, the current LS is a confluence of the 7 series and S-Class

— AdmiralT20 (View Profile)

Posted on 8/9/2008 11:54:03 AM | | Votes: 1   

I wonder when Talor would lay another turd and sure enough here it is..

— FactsRule (View Profile)

Posted on 8/10/2008 12:01:32 PM | | Votes: 5   

Have you ever looked at tail lights of current 5 series?!?! Well, compare those to Lexus LS and you'll see who's coping who.

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— RefuG (View Profile)

Posted on 8/11/2008 6:00:27 PM | | Votes: 0   

Maybe in performance, handling and exterior looks (last one is debatable) but definitely not in comfort, reliability, technology, or interior looks/quality. Keep in mind that a lot of people looking at luxury full-sized sedans are also looking at the things I mentioned that the LS excels in. So I wouldn't call it a sledge hammer bashing at all.

Also keep in mind that the LS gets significantly upgraded every 3 years instead of 5-7. We don't know what Lexus has around the corner.

— SanJoseDriver (View Profile)

Posted on 8/9/2008 1:59:30 PM | | Votes: 1   

SanJoseDriver,

The Lexus LS has to be one of the most overrated cars in this class. Yes it is very reliable and loaded with technology but comfort wise it isn't even on the same level as the S class as VARIOUS REVIEWS HAVE STATED. Furthermore the S class handles while the LS is less capable in this department. So how does the S class manage to handle better and be more comfortable at the same time? Sounds to me like the S class has the more ADVANCED SUSPENSION / TECHNOLOGY onboard.

From the pictures, the interior of the new BMW 7 series looks to be just fine. Maybe you should examine the cheap plastics and fake-looking wood inside the LS more closely before you talk about interior quality. VARIOUS REVIEWS have stated how the LS interior feels less complete and cheaper than its German competitors. In my personal experience the Audi A8 and Mercedes S class have beautifully crafted interiors that are simple in appearance yet elegant. The LS interior is cluttered, confusing and looks like an ergonomical nightmare completely lacking elegance and simplicity. Oh, and it has a lot of cheap shiny plastics that initially look good but when you spend more time inside the car, you notice how cheap they appear.

Technology? Every car in this nichemarket is loaded with advanced technology. Lexus simply conducts more marketing about how "advanced" the LS is to create a supposed selling point for consumers. In tests, some of those features that the LS has, like the collision avoidance system, do not function that effectively in real world tests. Autobild and Auto Motor und Sport both tested this and came up with the conclusion that this system is a GIMMICK designed to make people feel safe, but in reality it is unreliable and ineffective in operation.

So please get of the Lexus crack and come back down to earth where you'll see that the LS is a car like any other. Much of its reputation is based on technology which the average LS consumer has never used or tested. They know their LS has it because it says so on paper and that's it.

— Willis (View Profile)

Posted on 8/10/2008 4:17:46 AM | | Votes: -3   

How is the LS over-rated? Based on the nonstop Lexus bashing that goes on in these forums and mediocre comparison reviews in car articles I would say it under-rated.

I'm not saying that the LS is overall a better car than the 7 series (or S class), but it DOES have advantages. To me the LS interior looks much nicer and cleaner than the 7 series, including the 2009. I don't like the way the Germans lay things out, to me its very unintuitive and unergonomic. I-drive is a bad joke... it's the clumsiest way I could think of to control a car's systems.

Also with technology I'm not just talking about useless features like collision avoidance... I'm talking about something as simple as having a decent navigation system. The BMW Nav is one of the worst I have ever used (hopefully it is way better in this 7 series) while the LS Nav is amazing.

— SanJoseDriver (View Profile)

Posted on 8/11/2008 12:26:04 PM | | Votes: 1   

OK "Staar" "Teknik" "auto001" since we all know on this site you are all one and the same, let's see what happens with the next gen Lex LS.. I bet you anything it will have some resemblence to the 7 series, hell I even bet they copy the new idrive system. And for your information BMW interiors are made of far more quality materials than any Lexus or for that matter, any Jap car company... Just because Lex puts a little more "CHEAP BLING", think Gold emblems, and shiny buttons, doesn't make it better. Every automotive critc in the industry has hated the way even the new Infinit interiors look great, but wear really bad.. ie scratches, cracked leather etc.. BMW's have far more substance than a little cheap make up job such as LEXUS.............

— bmwman1963 (View Profile)

Posted on 8/9/2008 7:34:15 PM | | Votes: -1   

And as far as I know, only u and all of your alias user names call BMW's taxi's.. LOL

Everybody with a brain has your number on this site. Get a life and troll some other site that maybe u can back up your claims.

— bmwman1963 (View Profile)

Posted on 8/9/2008 7:35:53 PM | | Votes: -2   

Staar, get out of your Lexus think-box for about the ten minutes it takes you to read and comprehend the message. BMW covets how Mercedes S-class/CLS models market to different niches. Have you ever driven either model? I have and both are beautifully done. BMW 7-series will make sense because conservative design will appeal to different buyer than 8-series. Then you can say you would rather drive a Aston Martin Rapide than a 8-series and your Lexus world will not be disrupted.

— Dr550 (View Profile)

Posted on 8/11/2008 3:19:54 AM | | Votes: 1   

I just see two dorks in suits who couldn't design their way out of a wet paper sack.

— DW1968 (View Profile)

Posted on 8/10/2008 8:11:18 PM | | Votes: 1