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CNET releases its Top 6 engines

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CNET releases its Top 6 engines

"WardsAuto.com released its 10 best engines list, so we went through our recent reviews to see which cars we've driven that used those engines. We've got six recent reviews, starting with the 2007 Audi A4, powered by the FSI 2-liter, turbocharged four-cylinder engine. BMW's new 3-liter, turbocharged inline-six, which powers the 2007 BMW 335i, made the cut. Engines in two new crossovers we tested, the 2007 Mazda CX-7 and the 2007 Ford Edge, also made the list; in the former, a 2.3-liter turbocharged four-cylinder, and a Duratec 3.5-liter DOHC V-6 in the Ford Edge. Nissan's 3.5-liter V-6 was a shoe-in, and we saw that in a number of cars, most notably the 2007 Infiniti M35 Sport. And finally, Toyota's 3.5-liter V-6 powers one of our Editor's Choice cars, the 2006 Lexus IS 350."

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adoptgreyhounds - 1/20/2007 8:45:02 PM

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For the most part I agree, I've driven all these cars.
IS350 approx. 25k miles not spectacluar as they claim (does not like to rev. exspecially to redline)
335I only 8K but trully spectacular engine.
A4 2.0T Same as BMW maybe more so with the DSG (S-tronic)
Nissan/Infiniti 3.5VQ very good down low but again hates redline or anything above 6k miles 50k + first gen. 2nd only 5k and better.
The ford good for a domestic better than old still to soon to tell
Mazda very good but typical Asian turbo alot of lag then bam.

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adoptgreyhounds - 1/21/2007 5:25:47 PM

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Yes I know, I'm saying the 2.0T would even be better with the S-tronic (DSG) as I really like this gear box. With the way the combination performs in other VW group product it would make the A4 that much better.

CyberJoe - 1/26/2007 9:33:22 PM

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BMW's new twin turbo inline six and Audi's FSI 2 liter turbo 4 are worthy. But the rest of CNET's picks shows that they know as much about engines as they do about winter survival.

Engines that should be on their list:
Mercedes AMG 6.3(6.2)litre v8
VW V10 TDI
Audi V12 TDI
BMW 5.0 litre V10
Bugatti 16.4 W16
Porsche GT V10
Porsche 997 TT
VW/Bentley W12

Greenlight - 1/20/2007 9:25:37 PM

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bugatti for sure, that thing is a masterpiece, but I think CNET's criteria didn't include v16 :).

However, I do drive a 07 IS 350 and compared to my old 3series and family members S4 it is spectacular performance wise.

Sound not so much. Then agian it's "Luxury Sport" so go figure... IS is to stand for "Intelligent Sport" if I'm not mistaken.

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Greenlight - 1/20/2007 9:26:05 PM

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W16...oops

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IamEvilHomer - 1/22/2007 11:46:10 AM

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the w16 is the same base engine in the VW and Audi product. It is a modular engine that starts at a V6 and go to the 16T

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Carboy - 1/20/2007 9:02:56 PMView My AgentSpace

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Ford 5.4 Liter V8( 300hp )
All Ferrari Engines
Aston Martin DB9 ( 460hp ) / Vanquish S Engine (520hp)
Bugatti 16.4 W16 ( 1001 Hp )
Lamborghini Mercielago ( 580hp )/Mercielago LP460 ( 640hp ) Engine

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Carboy - 1/20/2007 9:04:02 PMView My AgentSpace

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07 Cadillac Escalade Engine ( 403hp )

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Bill - 1/20/2007 9:06:55 PM

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"CNET" selecting the best engines is like "Good Housekeeping" reviewing the best sports sedans and picking a car with an automatic. This list means nothing to me.

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kart1 - 1/22/2007 2:36:10 AM

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Yeah that is correct, CNET isn't the most engine or performance orientated publication but all of these engines are in the Wards top 10 engines as well. So their selection isn't that bad.

ryaajus - 1/22/2007 11:21:17 AM

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It's the equivalent to you giving us your opinion. LOL

IamEvilHomer - 1/22/2007 11:47:12 AM

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they are commenting on WARD's top 10 list and they are talking about the 6 they drove

rom64 - 1/20/2007 10:09:10 PM

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I agree with you GOgo

Here's my list -

1. BMW 335i I6 twin-turbo
2. Audi 2.0 4cyl turbo
3. Mercedes AMG 6.3(6.2)litre v8 N/A
4. BMW 5.0 litre v10
5. Bugatti 16.4 w16
6. Mercedes Bluetec diesel
7. Lexus LS460 v8
8. Ferrari F430 v8
9. Porsche 911 turbo f6 engine
10. Porsche 911 gt3 f6 engine

I know i have a sport/performance car bias. I apologize for that. But the only jewel here personally, is the 911 gt3 N/A f6 engine. 415 hp!! from 6 cyl w/o forced induction. amazing.

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S4cabriofoxone - 1/21/2007 12:33:41 AMView My AgentSpace

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May I ask why it's "Top 6"? Random, really.

My top TEN engines of 2006/2007:

1. Porsche 997 Turbo 480hp

2. Audi RS4/R8 4.2L 420hp

3. BMW E92 3.0L 300hp

4. Audi 2.0T 200hp

5. Infiniti/Lexus 3.5L 306hp

6. Mercedes-Benz 5.5L 381hp

7. Audi 4.2TDI 325hp

8. BMW 5.0L 500hp

9. Bentley 6.0L 550hp

10. Bugatti 16.4L 1000hp (it's amazing, yes, but 1000hp isn't much when there's 16.4 liters at your disposal)

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S4cabriofoxone - 1/21/2007 12:34:50 AMView My AgentSpace

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Note: I chose most of the models above based on efficiency, i.e. the RS4's V8 has 100hp/liter.

Others that weren't quite as efficient, such as the S550 or Veyron, I chose out of sheer technological marvel.

chewy - 1/21/2007 12:59:57 AMView My AgentSpace

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The Bugatti Veyron only has 8 liters of displacement.

They picked nice engines, it is obvious they weren't going for exotic engines.

S4cabriofoxone - 1/21/2007 1:14:55 AMView My AgentSpace

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Aha! It's only in the name, "Bugatti 16.4", because it has sixteen liters and four turbos. That confuses me.

Thank you.

S4cabriofoxone - 1/21/2007 1:15:56 AMView My AgentSpace

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How the hell did the Ford Edge's engine make this list?

From what I've read, it's just unremarkable.

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SixxFive - 1/21/2007 1:34:10 AM

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CNETS "rankings" are like Consumer Reports naming best car or car of the year .

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AmazingBimmer - 1/21/2007 11:40:06 AM

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BMW engine is a clear number 1. Look at the performance nums.. grouping it with the a4 2.0T made by VW is a crime. More useless propoganda by (cheap) VW lovers.

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adoptgreyhounds - 1/21/2007 5:30:13 PM

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I agree the 3.0LTT is the better engine, but the VW groups 2.0T is very, very good you should go drive it. If you were going to buy/lease an A4 this is the engine to have.

chewy - 1/22/2007 12:35:50 AMView My AgentSpace

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The BMW engine uses direct injection technology and a turbocharger that the 2.0 TFSI Audi/VW engine has had for two year now. Yes, VW and Audi have had the technology that the BMW Turbo I6 has for 2 years or so.

Second: 200 hp out of 2 liters is 100 hp per liter. Audi engine.

BMW engine, 300 hp out of 3 liters. Oh snap, same stuff, only the BMW engine is 50% bigger. Oh snap. How is the BMW engine better again?

SupraNeverBack - 1/21/2007 3:41:46 PM

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They should list them seperately.

NA vs. NA

FI vs. FI

Hybrid vs. Hybrid (This one will be all Toyota/Lexus though)

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AmazingBimmer - 1/21/2007 9:24:06 PM

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jmr... you are clearly the idiot. this is the first any of us have heard of problems on the 335 engine.. care to elaborate?

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ryaajus - 1/22/2007 11:47:57 AM

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If it's not listed w/ the Nhtsa, I don't believe it. Normally, I find fll fo the problems w/ vehicles here. The only BMW I saw problems with were 2004 330i's and it was a minor tranny glitch.

http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/defect/defectsearch.cfm

IamEvilHomer - 1/22/2007 11:50:18 AM

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Amazing

if we took a poll most people would say you are the idiot. Does anyone want to vote?

vdiv - 1/21/2007 11:04:55 PM

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I can't believe none of you ever mentioned Honda and their amazing 2 liter i-VTEC engine. That should certainly be in the top 10 and certainly above anything that Ford coughs up.

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S4cabriofoxone - 1/21/2007 11:20:50 PMView My AgentSpace

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AmazingBimmer, have you ever driven an Audi with the 2.0T engine?

...

I thought so.

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AmazingBimmer - 1/22/2007 10:41:40 AM

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S4. I dont drive VWs. too low on the performance/ luxury/ engineering/ quality/ desireability curve. But tell me more...

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IamEvilHomer - 1/22/2007 11:51:29 AM

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001 you banned this guy under the name Logical now he is here destroying your website under this name

ElSparquito - 1/23/2007 5:13:11 PM

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3.5L Toyota V6 - getting near 300HP in a Camry. What a crazy world.

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Bebopper - 1/26/2007 1:09:05 PM

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What a total waste of time even posting CNET's engine picks on this site. We're car guys, they're geeks turned marketing machine. If I want useful information on computers I mightlook to them. But for cars, gimme a break, they have no credibility to be publishing opinions on cars or engines.

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