Comparison: 2008 BMW X6 xDrive35i vs. 2009 Infiniti FX35 AWD

You mean Infiniti?

— FitzLA (View Profile)

Posted on 5/16/2008 5:20:14 PM | | Votes: 1   

Their sentiments about how the X6 drives haven't really been echoed by other publications.

— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 5/16/2008 10:44:37 AM | | Votes: -5   

I personally don't like it which is just an opinion, but I disagree with all the publications that say it looks better in person. It looks in person exactly the way it does in pictures.

— Autoegr525 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/16/2008 5:39:16 PM | | Votes: 2   

Do not assume anything, because assumption is a mother of all... You know what.

Just read review this "PROFESSIONAL" car mag reviewer wrote, and if you know even little something about cars, you'll see how far away that "PROFESSIONAL' car mag reviewer is from understanding cars. He should try ballet reviewing - may be that will work better for him.

— vladyxa (View Profile)

Posted on 5/16/2008 11:33:23 AM | | Votes: 0   

Vladyxa

What are you talking about? What did he state that was not true? Ive driven the x35drive and its agreat car but even comparing it to the old FX with the sport package, the car wasnt that special at all. It had excellent amount of grip but extra 1000 lbs difference between that an the older fx was to much for it to be any fun.

— CommonSense01 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/16/2008 11:40:29 AM | | Votes: 2   

It actually looks better in these pictures than I first thought. Maybe its the silver?

— M35MT (View Profile)

Posted on 5/16/2008 12:16:48 PM | | Votes: 2   

I agree, it does look a little better and it'll probly look better on the road. But at least it doesn't resemble the Pontiac Aztec like the X6 does.

— GTR35 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/16/2008 2:46:19 PM | | Votes: 2   

Yo i better get some boosting up n hur

— GTR35 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/16/2008 4:30:54 PM | | Votes: 1   

You should be happy they used the 18" wheels on the FX, considering they didn't give the BMW and its 20" wheels any credit for outhandling the FX. Instead they focused much more on the harsher ride, a complaint the FX would have shared had it also been equipped with its larger wheels.

— JRobUSC (View Profile)

Posted on 5/16/2008 11:53:20 AM | | Votes: 2   

Thats the whole point, You would be correct except for the fact that the suspesnsion constantly adjust itself, im not talking about the older FX, I was reffering to the new one with the DCS. But regardless, how can they give the X6 the performance nod, if in fact, the fx would have atleast posted a .87 g or more, considering the more heavy fx50 did a .87g. The accelration are dead even to 40, then at 60 the x6 is a little ahead, but any where after 60 the fx is clearly faster, those turbos dont have enough steam above 100, trust me i know, i have the same problem in my 335i, before i added the ECU piggyback, i would destroy some cars to about 90, and then they would start walking me like i never had the lead.

— CommonSense01 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/16/2008 12:08:47 PM | | Votes: 4   

and to that I say "the people buying the X6 won't care". They don't walk into a BMW dealer looking at a $65-80k car thinking "the BMW is going to be the cheapest". The X6 might cost more than the FX but the 35i version costs the same or less than the Mercedes ML550 or Cayenne S despite offering more performance, and the 50i costs the same or less than the Range Rover Sport, ML63, Cayenne GTS/Turbo, etc.

The Infiniti is less, we all knew it would be. Why? Because if it wasn't they wouldn't sell any. I think BMW is more interested in matching up with those other vehicles than they are about being the cheapest in class. My guess is they'll gladly let Infiniti have that title, and let the exclusivity of the X6 (something those other vehicles have as well that the Infiniti does not) carry the day.

— JRobUSC (View Profile)

Posted on 5/16/2008 2:51:29 PM | | Votes: 1   

Check the article again dumbass, you lost.

— M35MT (View Profile)

Posted on 5/16/2008 12:23:14 PM | | Votes: 0   

el34

You mentioned that in every FX article that was posted on this site. I actually enjoy your stupidity, but switch up the jokes already, your dogg ass draggin jokes are stale. And apparently BMW wont always be in first place, you ruin it for the normal BMW enthusiast like me and others on this site. Everyone knows your biased.

— CommonSense01 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/16/2008 12:31:05 PM | | Votes: 4   

I feel so bad for you EL34.

— _43LE (View Profile)

Posted on 5/16/2008 12:34:22 PM | | Votes: 0   

is there anything in this world funnier than a dog dragging his ass on the carpet?

— 1995e34 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/16/2008 3:01:12 PM | | Votes: 0   

BMW4ever

So the results are in, and how do you feel????? To quote you from before, The xdrive35 will destroy the fx in performance. any questions, at 40 they are dead even, at 60 the x6 pulls a head a bit, then the fx takes over all the way to the querter mile, and this was a stcok fx compared with a x6 with sport package. So who got destroyed? Appernetly my argument before was pretty logical, isnt it great that we can just go back and read what we previously wrote in the other blogs??

— CommonSense01 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/16/2008 1:41:53 PM | | Votes: 6   

P.s

Looks are subjective, you really have no ground to stand on the performance issue anymore, so your just looking for anything thats left, huh? i know you work for BMW but seriuosly give credit where its due. i dont undersatand you fanatics. I own a BMW too, how come im able to seperate product from badge, and you obviosuly cant.

— CommonSense01 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/16/2008 1:47:39 PM | | Votes: 7   

i didnt say anything bad about the Infiniti except I dont like how it looks. Apparently I am not the only one. Yes the Infiniti was a dead heat for the 0 to 60 and 0 to 100 & 1/4 mile. What happened to the handling and braking category?

In regards to looks, you and I know that the Infiniti is pretty ugly compared to the previous model. Interior wise, infinti's are usually pretty nice. Still, the BMW X6 buyer is not going really shop vs the Infiniti FX. It will be between the Cayenne and Range Rover. Only the Infiniti buyers are going to shop BMW and infiniti.

In regards to the V8 X6, the infiniti will be slower. BMW estimated the 0 to 60 on the www.bmwusa.com website as 6.5 seconds & in 2 tests have been 5.9. BMW estimates the V8 to be at 5.3 seconds, guessing then it should fall around 4.7 to 4.8. which will be quicker.

— BMW4me4ever (View Profile)

Posted on 5/16/2008 2:07:53 PM | | Votes: 2   

bmw4ever

Really?? Do i really need to answer that, what happened to the handling and braking?? Perhaps THE PERFORAMNCE PACKAGE WAS OMMITED!! with the perforance package, the fx35 sohuld easily outhandle this thing, considering the fx50(NON SPORT) did a .87g on the skid pad, the 400 lb lighter fx should perform even better. P.S, for 17 thousand dollars, ill take an extra couple of feet in breaking. By the way , youre a smart guy, why play dumb? We both know bigger tires equels more surface area= much shorter stopping distance, am i wrong?

— CommonSense01 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/16/2008 2:23:02 PM | | Votes: 4   

CommonSense, those FX50 performance stats you mentioned were actually from the FX50S, which IS the high performance version of the vehicle.

As I said previously, my guess is the X6 xDrive50i is going to be right on pace with the FX50S for performance, right on par with the Cayenne Turbo and ML63 and way ahead of the Range Rover. But BMW priced the X6 to be considered a Cayenne, ML63, and Range Rover competitor, not to be an FX competitor. BMW might lose a sale or two to the FX from people value shopping who probably wouldn't have ever "moved up the brand tier" anyway, but that's ok, because they'll sell those one or two to the people who would have gotten the Cayenne or Range Rover previously. If you have to lose one group of buyers, lose the ones on the low end. They'll do just fine.

— JRobUSC (View Profile)

Posted on 5/16/2008 2:59:28 PM | | Votes: 1   

JROB

I agree absolutely with what your saying, but i do not come to this site to talk about presetige and excusivity. If i wanted to be exclusive, id buy a Chrysler Aspen, because Not a single person has one, so its much more exclusive than an x6. I tried to like this car, trust me i own a 335i, so i was def rooting for it even before i went to test drive these cars. I came back thinking exactly what this reviewer was, the car is great if it cost 40 thousand, not 60+ plus when decently loaded. It handled well but NOT well enough to sacrifice the utility and justify the price tag. Handling wise, yes its a bit better than most but i dont see myself paying 60 thousand dollars for a v6, i would rather purchase a ml550 with gobs of torque and straighline perforance or the fx50s with everything better. Btw, the poeple you talk about are badge hoes, they are not enthusiast and thus they are irrlevant in this convo, we are tlaking about perforamnce cars for enthusiast to enjoy, and not which car my mom can purchase to make her freinds jelous.

— CommonSense01 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/16/2008 3:48:38 PM | | Votes: 1   

CommonSense, then you wouldn't buy a Cayenne GTS/Turbo or ML63 either, and you're not the target audience BMW had in mind with this vehicle. In that case you're the "bottom end" buyer BMW is sacrificing to get the foothold in the upper market. Again, this isn't supposed to be a "value" proposition, and for "performance enthusiasts" aren't going to drive an SUV anyway. It's a status car, it performs on par with or better than the cars BMW intended it to compete with, and it's priced accordingly. What you have here is Infiniti going after BMW, not the other way around. That's an important distinction to make.

— JRobUSC (View Profile)

Posted on 5/16/2008 5:11:53 PM | | Votes: 4   

one by one ... what are you talking about? G37 vs the 335 coupe won 1 time. G35 has lost every comparison to the 328 & 335. Infiniti FX35 beat the BMW, 1 time and suddenly it is that BMW is losing and Infinti is the new car. huh? 2 comparison tests in 2 years against about 9 the other way, due not make you a winner.

— BMW4me4ever (View Profile)

Posted on 5/16/2008 2:19:35 PM | | Votes: 0   

Yeah i have to agree with bmw4ever here, Infiniti is doing a great job competing with BMW, but i cant say there taking down one product at a time but some products are definetly better. The m35 was a better car, then a 525i or a 528i. The FX was a much better truck than an x5 ( if we are talking about performance only) as for everything else, they both make great cars.

— CommonSense01 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/16/2008 2:27:21 PM | | Votes: 5   

"The FX was a much better truck than an x5"

That, I have to disagree with. As a performance vehicle, the FX is superior, but as an SUV, the X5 is easily the better car. It offers not only performance, but versatility, some semblance of practicality and luxury that the FX can't match. Along WITH its performance.

But I guess the FX really competes with the X6, which apparently it is better than.

— S4cabriofoxone (View Profile)

Posted on 5/19/2008 12:02:03 AM | | Votes: 2   

^ Very true, but the 700 lb weight difference should more than negate that advantage.

— CommonSense01 (View Profile)

Posted on 5/16/2008 3:49:40 PM | | Votes: 1   

that is what i tried to say. The editor has made it very clear that he didnt like the X6, but then has the nerve to try and give an objective view of the car. huh? Never going to happen. The vehicle that he dislikes the most will lose no matter how the performance numbers match up.

— BMW4me4ever (View Profile)

Posted on 5/16/2008 5:09:01 PM | | Votes: 5   

EXACTLY. Where is it written that the BMW/Porsche/Range Rover/Mercedes are supposed to cost the same as the Infiniti? Infiniti is doing the chasing here, they're the ones trying to target the big boys. Those other brands aren't targeting Infiniti. You don't think they'd love to charge $80k for the FX50S like BMW does for the X6 50i? HELL YES they would. But they're smart enough to realize there's a price threshold they have to maintain. The Infiniti is a value priced alternative to the BMW/MB/RR/Porsche, and a great one at that. However Infiniti is smart enough to realize if they priced them even remotely the same, everyone would just buy the BMW/MB/RR/Porsche.

Is the Infiniti a great vehicle? Yes. Is it a great value? Yes. Is that going to matter most people wealthy enough to be considering the Range Rover, BMW, Mercedes, or Porsche? Not one bit.

— JRobUSC (View Profile)

Posted on 5/16/2008 9:49:20 PM | | Votes: 4   

Teknik, I'm not implying anything. I am stating that most people (not all, but most) buying Cayenne GTS/Turbo's, ML63's, and Range Rover's aren't going to "step down" to the Infiniti no matter how well it performs. They're buying those vehicles because they desire them, not because they're necessarily the best at anything in particular. The X6 isn't a volume vehicle, so if BMW wants to sell out of them and poach sales from somewhere, they're going to aim for THAT market, not the FX market. Infiniti hopes the FX poaches sales from the X5/X6. BMW hopes the X5/X6 poaches sales from the Cayenne and Range Rover. That's the difference. Is the Infiniti probably a fantastic vehicle and a much better value than the X6? Of course. But that's also true of the Infiniti versus those other models, which happen to sell plenty well. No one seems to be questioning THOSE cars, just the X6. The mistake everyone posting in this thread is making is in assuming that BMW was targeting the FX with the X6, and missed by pricing it so high. They weren't, and they didn't. They were targeting those other brands, and hit a bullseye. It's priced in line with THOSE cars, the ones BMW intended the X6 to compete with, and outperforms them as well, all while looking like nothing else on the road. If you want to save money and buy a more volume based, less exclusive vehicle, get the FX50S. If not, take your pick of those other vehicles, X6 included.

— JRobUSC (View Profile)

Posted on 5/17/2008 4:42:23 PM | | Votes: 2