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Comparo: Infiniti G37 vs. BMW 335i vs. Audi S5

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Comparo: Infiniti G37 vs. BMW 335i vs. Audi S5

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dlin - 8/17/2007 4:17:53 AM

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"a fine piece of furniture."

I like it.

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SixxFive - 8/16/2007 10:30:28 PM

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This is what I took away from the article: once again, congratulations BMW!

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titsmagee - 8/16/2007 10:46:20 PM

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335 best car here
G37 best value
S5, not sure what to make of it but should cost less?

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S4cabriofoxone - 8/17/2007 12:49:21 AMView My AgentSpace

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They called it a bargain, likening it to the Jag XK and BMW 6er.

dlin - 8/17/2007 4:08:59 AM

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In fact that's exactly what makes me burst out.

At 182.5", S5 may be longer than 180.3" of 3 series coupe, but it's shorter than 183.1" of G37, shorter than 183.2" of CLK, and way smaller than 190.2" of 6 series.

And they call it a 6 series competitor?
Give me a break.

Furthermore, does that make G coupe a competitor of 6 series if it also got a V8 like, say, G45?
Maybe NISSAN should consider that.

S4cabriofoxone - 8/17/2007 11:54:32 PMView My AgentSpace

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Whenever people compared the S5 to the 6 Series, I balked, too. I KNOW it's not that big. But I can understand where they're coming from- it's the target market, and how the car drives. It's more of an effortless cruiser that just happens to have great handling, like the 650i.

IamEvilHomer - 8/19/2007 1:52:57 PM

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tits- the S5 is in a class all by itself/ just drive one if you get a chance it is hot

ICON - 8/16/2007 10:57:12 PM

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Loved seeing the side profile of each of the cars. There is no question that the 3 and S5 are much more appealing than the G37.

Asian design seems to be morphing into all too familiar themes that appear repeatedly across almost all of their product lines. Looking more and more feminine.

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EL34 - 8/16/2007 11:49:30 PM

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Maybe next time Datsun could try and be original for once.

All they do is ripoff other car designs, it makes me sick.

And Japan will not tell the truth in their school text books about WWII!!

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enthusiastx11 - 8/17/2007 12:24:14 AM

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all elegant cars.

S5 is beautiful, G37 is great value, but the 335i wins my vote for performance and good looks.

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Larry - 8/17/2007 12:44:16 AM

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the BMW 335i is faster than both G37, and Audi S5. BMW victory, but I like all three, audi looks great and has added red seats, G37 is a good deal for the money, no losers.

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S4cabriofoxone - 8/17/2007 12:51:49 AMView My AgentSpace

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I agree... hard to really choose between this three. If you took the 335i, you might look at the G37 and think, "it's so much less-expensive! I could've gotten the kids another college fund!," and you'd look at the S5 and drool over its sophistication. But if you got the G37, you'd think about owning a car with German engineering excellence... the 335i and S5 are both fine pieces of this Germanic prowess, but incredibly different interpretations. If you bought the S5, you'd see the other two as the hooligans. See, it's a win-lose situation for everyone!

Larry - 8/17/2007 12:48:44 AM

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BMW 335i with that computer chip performance upgrade would give a M3 a run for its money.

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S4cabriofoxone - 8/17/2007 12:53:53 AMView My AgentSpace

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I really like them all. I'm not kidding. 335i is probably the best all-rounder, with an excellent combination of raw performance and refinement. The S5 is more refined, but you also get the monster torque of the V8 to keep you on your toes. It doesn't look bad, either! As for the G37... it's obviously the best value. Power in between these two, handling that's on par with either. But what comes with the low price is lower refinement; you won't feel the same integration that you do in the other cars. I don't know. Tough decision.

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SevorbeupstryIsBack - 8/17/2007 2:57:58 AM

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S5 for me, without a doubt. The G37 tries to hard to be a BMW and is still copying some design elements (hoffmeister). The 335i is ugly, don't like Bangle bimmers. Even with the M-sport package it still doesn't look quite right.

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minimalist - 8/17/2007 3:02:24 AM

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they are all nice cars. although the g37 is obviously a great value, i still wonder about its quickness despite having nearly the same amount of hp as the 335i. i was surprised to find out g37 does a little over 14 seconds in the quarter mile while the 335i does mid 13s. it appears that the g37 does not put the power to the ground very well.

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amazinBimmer - 8/17/2007 6:23:27 AM

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the VW trolls are at it again.. even with a $15000 overpriced VW chassis, the POS cant win it all. then you have mental midgets say its "more refined". HA. Audi engineers have to be sitting there saying" i knew we couldnt do sh*t with the FWD chassis!".

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Will_ - 8/17/2007 7:05:53 AM

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It's nice that for the most part, we're all in agreement that all three of these vehicles are great in their own right. I guess I differ from most in saying I like the design of the G37 over the other two, although as I've said before, the 3-Coupe is the best-looking BMW out right now. The S5 is also a stunning vehicle to look at, and in my opinion would offer the best combination of sport and luxury comfort.

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IamEvilHomer - 8/19/2007 1:53:44 PM

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will have you seen the S5 in real life?

IamEvilHomer - 8/19/2007 1:53:50 PM

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will have you seen the S5 in real life?

IamEvilHomer - 8/19/2007 1:53:51 PM

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will have you seen the S5 in real life?

MunichRob - 8/17/2007 9:04:37 AMView My AgentSpace

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I'd personally still take the S5. It's faster than the 335i, I prefer V8's, & when the 335i is next to it in those pictures, it looks kind of weak, not to mention cheaper (Though I realize it is, but probably not by that much).

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BMW4me4ever - 8/17/2007 10:17:23 AMView My AgentSpace

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audi was just a tad slower, but for the extra money i will be happy to chip the 335

pushrod27 - 8/17/2007 1:45:58 PM

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You didn't read the article. 335i was the fastest car.

S4cabriofoxone - 8/17/2007 11:56:08 PMView My AgentSpace

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IN THIS TEST. In real-life driving (and according to every other test I've seen), the S5 is faster/quicker than the 335i. It was built to be. It is.

weaponX - 8/17/2007 9:23:36 AM

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Coupes only in this test. You shouldn't be posting impaired.

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MunichRob - 8/17/2007 8:31:58 PMView My AgentSpace

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I did read the article but the S5's best reported time 4.5sec to 60mph is faster than that of the 335i's best reported time of 4.8sec. I can only assume the driver is what caused the S5 to be slower in this test.

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S4cabriofoxone - 8/17/2007 11:50:31 PMView My AgentSpace

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Uhh, CS? The 335i certainly does NOT "always" get 4.8! Wow, what a little liar! LOL.

The 335i's average test time is five seconds flat. I like how you made the 335i look faster than it actually is, and made the S5 look slower than it is. The S5's times have been from 4.5-5.0 seconds. Never more, never less. It's faster than the 335i coupe, and it should be. You don't have to try to make it look like it isn't.

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S4cabriofoxone - 8/17/2007 11:53:10 PMView My AgentSpace

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Well, let me say something about my last comment... the 335i is definitely fast, and it's a bargain. It's also beautiful and gets great mileage for its performance. But it wasn't built to out-run the S5; the S5 was built to out-run IT. And that's what it does, case closed.

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S4cabriofoxone - 8/19/2007 2:10:25 AMView My AgentSpace

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What do the Corvette and R8 have anything to do with this? You seemed to melt from one topic to the other, only after agreeing with me on the S5 but not really acknowledging it.

And I know as well as you do that the 335i has had more than only 5 reviews, LOL.

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S4cabriofoxone - 8/17/2007 11:52:20 PMView My AgentSpace

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It would've been pretty impossible for them to "rip" the BMW's rear end, because the two coupes came out within a year of each other, and the A5/S5 was designed from scratch. I would say that the Audi designers finished the exterior of their car about three years ago, and have since been sweating the other details.

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Larry - 8/17/2007 9:34:52 AM

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Attn Munich Rob the BMW 335i is faster than the Audi S5, just read the article.

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MunichRob - 8/17/2007 8:35:55 PMView My AgentSpace

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Moron I'm a BMW fan, but I can still admit that the Audi is the car I'd prefer in this case based on looks, interior, & the S5's V-8 engine to the 335's I-6.

Larry - 8/17/2007 9:44:09 AM

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you audi and lexus fans should try to read the news articles before posting opinions that don't make sense.

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BenzW124 - 8/17/2007 9:54:27 AM

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Infiniti and Audi are a joke compared to the clear winner BMW. Infiniti and Audi lack BMW's cache period. The 335i and CLK550 are the only coupes in this class.

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amazinBimmer - 8/17/2007 10:08:18 AM

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Benz.. agree..

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BMW4me4ever - 8/17/2007 10:20:07 AMView My AgentSpace

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Settles another test. BMW 335 is still the coupe to beat. Wait til the 335 with the new sport package arrives in 2008. The 19" wheels are hot and only charge $ 1,100 extra for it ... Also, 335xi coupe with a base price of $ 42,600 and very well equipped with Navigation, sports package and such for only $ 51,100 ... bargain

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evensteven - 8/17/2007 10:25:30 AM

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Definately the S5. It does it all in a much better package (but then again it costs more) It has the V8 performance, styling (interior/exterior, and I love those menacing LED's), AWD, should be a very good handling car as well (this we will just have to see for ourselves w/ the new MLP platform). As for the outright performance, I do not think they knew how to launch an AWD car. The S5 has hit 0-60 in 4.8 in one publication that I know of. Also, to comment on dugit's claim that Audi ripped off BMW's rear end.......sorry to say but BMW ripped it off first from Audi's Nuvolari quattro Concept from 2003. This was the concept car for the new A5/S5. Audi showed that they were going this direction well before BMW did it with the 3 series coupe.

Now I really like BMW's but I am just glad someone else came to the party ready to party as well which gives us all more choices. I personally could care a less if the BMW does end up being faster by .1 seconds 0-60. I think the S5 has the overall thing going for it and that is what I would /will chose when the time comes

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BMW4me4ever - 8/17/2007 10:31:42 AMView My AgentSpace

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The audi suspension, i am a little surprised at. I would have thought it to be more sport car oriented.

even .. BMW did not rip off the rear end. I would say the Audi ripped off the side crease and the rear end. I like the Audi, but to compare it to the 6-series is outrageous. I think the S5 has a very muscular front end and like the interior alot. For the money, the 335 is the best bang for the buck. fast, powerfull, best in class handling, sporty, value and versatile..

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evensteven - 8/17/2007 10:52:25 AM

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BmW4me4ever.......you may want to go look again but Audi did the A5/S5 rear a while ago as a concept with the Nuvolari quattro. I'm not stating this as much on fiction but rather on some proof.

I can agree the BMW 335i does have a great value attached to it. Power, handling, and such and this is probably why it is garnering so much favor compared to the new M3,but it does not bring the whole package together like Audi does with the S5. I hate to always bring up the interior of Audi's because everyone does but it is best in this class and most will agree. The sound of the V8 I have heard so far is intoxicating, along with the overall loook of the S5 I feel it's the better car. The BMW looks cheaper as it sits next to the S5 and not everyone is as concerned about .2 of a secong in the 1/4. The S5 holds better than the BMW on the g track, heck it holds better than the RS4 which has beaten the new M3 on a few European comparos. Plus quattro gives it the year round edge.

BMW4me4ever - 8/17/2007 11:43:32 AMView My AgentSpace

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The S5 has not beaten the new M3 in any comparo .. The early tests of the M3 were just posting manufacturers data and such ... So this is the handling of the S5 huh?

"Hearing the cries of enthusiasts, Audi engineers have moved the front wheels forward and the engine back in an effort to dial down the current A4's inherent understeer. They still haven't shoved the wheels out to the corners a la BMW, though. At 182.5 inches long, the S5 has about two inches on the 335i, yet the 108.3-inch wheelbase is a half-inch shorter. The S5's double-wishbone front/multilink rear suspension isn't BMW-taut either. Poke the 4.2-liter, 354-hp, direct-injection V-8 and the front end will rise up like a 1969 Plymouth Road Runner. On the track, the suspension feels soft and the car leans hard into corners." dips and rolls ... The quattro with perfomance tires provides no year round edge. What do you say about the 335xi coupe? Interior styling is subjective ... It is clear in this test that the BMW 335 coupe won.

evensteven - 8/17/2007 12:07:13 PM

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No one said the S5 beat the new M3 in any comparo. I just mentioned how it out did the RS4 on the g track which the RS4 has held it's own against the new M3.......just a little deductive reasoning.

As for performance numbers. 4.9 sec. 0-60 and 1/4 mile in 13.3 which bests the 335i. Here is the link to this. Do not discount the S5 as a performer until it is here but it will definately take sales from the 3 series coupe just based on the fact Audi does not have a 2 dr. coupe that competed with BMW in the past and some will like what Audi offers more, this coming from one who has always loved the 3 series coupes.

As for the M3 comparo we will have to wait for the RS5 for this one.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/MediaNav/articleId=121924/firstNav=Gallery/videoId=20135491

BMW4me4ever - 8/17/2007 12:47:15 PMView My AgentSpace

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The 335 coupe has consistently received performance times from 4.8 to 4.9 seconds. The 335xi coupe is predicted to be faster. It is not going to really take sales away from the 335 coupe. Except for people that dont want to wait for the 335 coupe and want something more immediate. The A5, which will be priced the same as the 335, is nowhere near the same bang for the dollar as the 335. That is why they compared to the S5 ... As a side note in the August Car & Driver 2007 the 335 coupe out handled the RS4 on the same track ...

S4cabriofoxone - 8/18/2007 12:00:12 AMView My AgentSpace

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BMW4me4ever, 4.9 seconds is actually a fairly slow time for the S5. Its lowest time is 4.5, which is about a half-second quicker than what the BMW usually gets.

I'm not turning this into a numbers race. The 335i is still a damn fast car- it's my favorite BMW at the moment. But the S5 is faster. It's more powerful, it's more luxurious, it's more exclusive, it's more expensive. It's faster.

And seriously, what makes you think the 335xi will be faster than the 335i? I don't know if you haven't realized this, but AWD cars are HEAVIER than RWD cars. Why do you think most Audis have always been heavier than BMWs? AWD! The 335xi will be heavier than the S5, because the S5 is only about sixty pounds heavier than the 335i, and an AWD system weighs several hundred. Hence, it will be slower. It will still be fast, but it will be slower, and there's nothing wrong with that. I just can't believe you won't admit that.

JUGNU - 8/17/2007 10:40:28 AMView My AgentSpace

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That blue G37 for me.

JUGNU

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vman1013 - 8/17/2007 2:50:13 PM

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RICEMASTER - Leasing is just another way to finance a car. It has nothing to do with whether you believe the car is superior or not. FYI - at the end of a lease you have the option to buy it, re-lease it or give it back. It provides the ultimate flexibility for driving the ultimate driving machine!

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Chip - 8/17/2007 3:15:04 PM

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E90- Im in LOVE with my 335i too, and I lease as well, always have, always will. The reason I like leasing is that I get a new car every 3 years, which is great.

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S4cabriofoxone - 8/18/2007 12:01:20 AMView My AgentSpace

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RICEMASTER, just shut up and go lease a 335i.

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GermanNut - 8/17/2007 12:19:19 PM

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BenzW124 you can say what you want, but when Audi surpasses Mercedes for 2nd place in sales worldwide by premium auto-manufacturers this year don't come crying to me.

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DiamondJim - 8/17/2007 12:52:42 PM

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OMG the headlights and the side profile of the S5 make it look VISCIOUS!

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S4cabriofoxone - 8/18/2007 12:02:02 AMView My AgentSpace

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Vicious?

snatchandgrab - 8/17/2007 1:30:36 PM

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I would buy all 3 of them..but I'm an car enthusiast and not a Brand lover like most of the clowns that post here on this site. They all offer something a little different. Styling wise the Bmw is last (in pics)I must say it looks a helluva lot better in person though. Audi is first in styling...I currently own an Infiniti, MB, Bmw, but Audi's growing on me.

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Neverfollow - 8/17/2007 1:36:43 PM

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I enjoyed this article. It was well written, had good photography and even held a little drama. The outcome didn't suprise me, the 335 is a great car for the money.

I think Audi wants to up the game a little in this segment. In a sense, they overbuilt the car for the current level of competition. They could have made it cheaper, lighter, and even handle better if they really wanted to. They chose not to! They put a class leading interior in it. They made almost everything standard on the US versions. The only options are a custom engineered audio system, Navigation, Back up camera, Adaptive headlights, and Advanced Key. Aside from some trim and color options, that's it.

One isn't overly concerned with weight if you are making the car standard with nearly everything and then offering braided stainless steel wire beltline trim as an option.

I understand the engineers were unsatisfied with the handling of the finished product because "marketing" decided to hold the line on performance of the S version, presumedly to offer an even higher performance RS version down the road.




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evensteven - 8/17/2007 1:43:25 PM

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BMW4me4ever, I think you are missing the point. There are enough comparos out there now that both the S5 and 335 have similar performance numbers. As for price, I have already stated the S5 is more expensive. What you are missing is you feel everyone is looking at price point only. The S5 brings more refinement, comfort, style (subjective, of course), and technology to the game than the 335i which raises the price. Along with this it has quattro which speaks for itself. The AWD system BMW employs is not at the same calibar as Audi's quattro. This has it's advantages and disadvantages. Some will feel the advantages outweigh the disadvantages that quattro ads. Overall track handling will probably go to the BMW. I for one will drive both and make up my own mind on which one I like more for my needs. If I was as concerned as you seem to feel everyone should be about .1 of a second, I would go out and buy a Mitsi Evo/Subie STi and wax both cars

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chewy - 8/17/2007 3:29:45 PMView My AgentSpace

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The S5 is about 1/2 second quicker than they reported.

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henbmw - 8/17/2007 6:38:57 PM

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The 335i is summing up to be one of the greatest cars of our time. I think its a great achievement that both Infiniti and Audi were able to tread so close.

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S4cabriofoxone - 8/18/2007 12:05:40 AMView My AgentSpace

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S5 is, for all practical purposes, in a class of its own. The way Audi has aligned these new coupes against the competition is puzzling for me. I think they should stick a bigger V6 in the A5 and it would be a more logical competitor for the 335i coupe; S5 is too much more powerful and more expensive to really be a fair competitor. So, I think BMW should be the one commended, for bringing out a car that's so close to another that's $15K more expensive.

I guess the real comparisons will come when the 335xi coupe comes out.

henbmw - 8/18/2007 2:53:26 AM

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To be honest, its pretty sad that the Audi costs 15k more yet is slower than the BMW. In the 1/4 its .1 of a second slower; the BMW can also be tuned easily (and for about $1200) to be a sub 13 second 1/4 miler which is more comparable to a RS4 than a S5. So power is not really an issue, and to be honest I would have to say your banking on rarity to buy the S5. Otherwise your simply paying more for a car that simply isn't as good as the 335i.

bmwdrvr - 8/18/2007 9:13:07 AM

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the s5 is far from a class of its own thats BS, its something called a c CLK500, that did the small V8 coupe thing along time ago. realistically the S5, that the 335i beat, is somewhere between the 335i and the m3, if not more a direct m3 compeitor like the old v8 s4 was. the a5 is the car that is the 335i competitor because it uses the top engine from the a4, which is the 335i competitor. the 335i beating the S5 just shows the A5 isnt even in the same league as the 335i.

Heyhuub - 8/18/2007 9:58:22 AM

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The most powerfull A4, the 3.2 quattro competes against the 330i. Not the 335i.

S4cabriofoxone - 8/19/2007 2:11:47 AMView My AgentSpace

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hen, the S5 is not slower. I don't know how I'm ever going to make that clear for you. How about this? You buy a 335i, I buy an S5, we meet, we drag. I win.

bmwdrvr - 8/19/2007 8:04:33 AM

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thank you for proving my point about the idiots on this site, and how little the vw fans on here know about cars. the top engine in the a4 competes with the 330i not the 335i......the 335i is the replacement for the 330i not a performance variant. therefore the top engine in the a4 which is used in the a5 is the 335i competitor, you would think anyone would have known that by the upboost im assuming alot of the vw guys dont thats pretty sad. BMW doesnt make a 330i. so again realistically if the 335i is beating the s5, which for years has been the M3 competitor, that means the a5, and top a4 are not even in the same league as the 335i, go read up on the 3 series...again for the slow ones there is a 328i, and a 335i. lmao wtf

S4cabriofoxone - 8/20/2007 2:52:33 AMView My AgentSpace

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"...if the 335i is beating the s5, which for years has been the M3 competitor, that means the a5, and top a4 are not even in the same league as the 335i..."

I'll try to overlook the terrible typing skills you have utilized here.

The 335i is not "beating" the S5. I know this is a cliché, but it all comes down to personal preference. I don't care what the reviews say, whether the S5 wins or the 335i wins- I'd take the S5. The 335i was my favorite coupe until it came out.

Anyway. How Audi aligns their cars is different from BMW. Let me put it out for you:

Standard Audi < Standard BMW < S Audi < M BMW < RS Audi

You're right that the A5 is in a "different league" than the 335i, but that's really because it's meant to compete with the 328xi. Think about it: similar power, engine size, price, weight, performance. The S5 is in-between the M3 and 335i, so you will see mags comparing it to both. The RS5 will be in a different class entirely, annihilating the M3.

610looper - 8/18/2007 12:09:22 AM

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Finally a AWD V8 Audi that is comparable in weight to the 6 cylinder RWD cars..can't wait till BMW adds X-drive and it's weight to the 335i.

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amazinBimmer - 8/18/2007 11:40:19 AM

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610 moron. read it again.. the audi awd with sport tires provides it with no all year round edge...imagine being laughed at the country club pulling up in a vw! or the plymouth. .hahah

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IamEvilHomer - 8/18/2007 1:50:28 PM

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there you are
we missed you bimmer

school starts up for you again soon.
6th grad is fun. You will have recess and learn to do basic algebra

GermanNut - 8/18/2007 1:00:34 PM

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the BMW xi cars including coupes are slow dogs. BMW can't even come close to achieveing the performance that Audi achieves with AWD platforms on their cars. What a shame.

Imagine pulling up in your swanky 335xi coupe only to get smoked by an Audi!!!!!

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GermanNut - 8/18/2007 1:04:23 PM

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BMW wishes it could make the 335i coupe faster than the Audi S5. The S5 will smoke the 335 as witnessed by its 4.5 0-60 mph time as clocked by Motortrend Magazine during their test.

0-60 mph in 4.5 seconds.....can't say that about a BMW 335i coupe.

Hell the 0-60 mph time of 4.5 seconds places the Audi S5 only .1 seconds behind the BMW M3's fastest recorded time yet to 60 mph of 4.4 seconds.

Now lets think what adding another 100 horsepower at minimum and more likely 115 horsepower will do when Audi creates the RS5.

You got that right....goodbye BMW M3. 0-60 mph in 4.0 seconds can't say that about a BMW M3.

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Undies - 12/18/2007 10:47:24 PM

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I think you guys are all idiots.

Anyone can throw a V8 in a big car and make it go fast. It takes intelligence and creative R&D to create something unique and out of the ordinary. YOu don't think BMW has V8s that they can easily slip into a e92 and blow the socks off that s5? this should be considered a laugh that bmw engineering surpasses simple dumb brawn manufacturing.

I admit tho that I love my bmw interior cause its clean and smooth, but i must say i like the way the s5 looks inside/out. audi always made flashy cars, bmw however made intuitive design. But im a sucker for sheer innovative engineering - 300 lbs of trq avialable at 1400 RPM, light powerful rear wheel drive, and unmatched handling for 15k less? for 15k I can make this car beat the 08 M3.......hense smoke the s5......lol v8 american style engineering good one!

amazinBimmer - 8/18/2007 3:10:04 PM

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S4.. lies as usual. audis are heavier becasue audi has no weight saving technologies ON THIS CAR. as such, it is dog. jeses, why do i even get into it with the folks who cant achieve enough to buy the bimmer

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S4cabriofoxone - 8/19/2007 2:15:21 AMView My AgentSpace

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The V8 AWD S5 is only 60lbs heavier than the inline six RWD 335i, I wouldn't call that a pig. The G37 is still heavier than the S5, but it has a V6 and RWD. It's not heavy, but how do you explain that?

Anyway. You keep babbling about how people should "buy the bimmer" when the S5 is $15K more? Anyway, neither of these coupes would be my main mode of transport; these would be mere "second" cars. I'm reserving the real cash for a real car. Think RS5 Cabriolet or 911.

610looper - 8/18/2007 3:34:30 PM

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amazonidiot, had you read the weight portion of the article, you'd know that the S5 was not much heavier than the 335i, and that's with a v8 and awd..

3668=G37, which is 75 lbs, heavier than the S5...try the math 3668-75=3593 for S5 and the G37 was 93lbs heavier than the 335i...try math again...3668-93= 3575 weight of the 335i...So, more math for you now, S5 weight 3593-335i weight 3575 = 18lbs... so go have fun in your RWD MiniCooper

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GermanNut - 8/18/2007 3:38:00 PM

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amazinBimmer is stating his usual lies as he always does

You are wrong amazinBimmer, the Audi RS4 weights less than the BMW M3. The Audi S5 weighs less than the BMW 335i

Audis are not always heavier.

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GermanNut - 8/18/2007 3:42:22 PM

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why do I have to get into such childish debates with you amazinBimmer. Obviously, you don't drive the lineup of BMWs you claim to.

If you did you would know that with a base price of $53K for the S5 versus a base of $41K for the BMW 335i the people who bought the Audi S5 could have bought the BMW 335i if they wanted to.

Same goes for owners of the Audi RS4. They obviously couldn't afford the BMW M3 even though they paid $66K for their cheap Audi when the BMW comes in with a cheaper $63K price tag.



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Larry - 8/18/2007 9:38:50 PM

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You audi fans claim that the Audi S5 is faster than the 335i, in this comparison and the edmonds comparison the 335i is faster , in both test. Germanut you say BMW wishes it made a car faster than the S5, just read the article BMW 335i quarter mile 13.6, Audi S5 13.8. I don't understand that fiction based audi cheerleading.

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S4cabriofoxone - 8/19/2007 2:18:41 AMView My AgentSpace

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Don't tell me you're trusting Edmunds with 0-60 times. Wow, what an idiot. You want me to bring up five tests where the S5 is quicker?

In fact, I don't recall an S5 vs. 335i comparison on edmunds.com. Please post it here. I have read separate tests of each, but...

I am so sick of this. You guys ruin it for me. I really, really like both of these cars. Why does it have to come down to "this one's better than that blah blah blah?" A real car fan has respect for the "other" brand. I don't care about what you have to say any more.