Edmunds.com Full Test: 2009 Nissan GT-R

dlin submitted on 12/19/2007 Official AutoSpies Timestamp: 2:32 AM
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Nissan GT-R

Edmunds.com Full Test: 2009 Nissan GT-R

We know you want the numbers and we're not going to waste your time. Neither is Nissan. Its 2009 GT-R hits 60 mph in 3.3 seconds, quicker than the last Dodge Viper, Corvette Z06 and Porsche 911 Turbo we tested. Keep your foot pinned, and after another tap on the upshift paddle it will clear the quarter-mile in 11.6 seconds at more than 120 mph.

We know this because we've just returned from Japan where we tested a privately owned GT-R on an airstrip outside Tokyo. The car we tested was a Japanese-spec example with 1,500 break-in kilometers on its odometer. It's owned by Japanese journalist Jun Nishikawa and packs the same hardware the U.S. car will get: a 3.8-liter twin-turbo V6 that generates at least 473 horsepower and 434 pound-feet of torque. It had the same six-speed dual-clutch automated manual gearbox and the same adjustable dampers which, by now, you've read plenty about.

What you likely haven't heard about is this: launch control. Despite its bold 3.5-second 0-60-mph claim, Nissan has been keeping this little bit of technological wizardry a secret. Test a GT-R in the homeland, however, and the need for confidentiality is quickly overwhelmed by the need for speed. Read Article

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Lexus - 12/19/2007 2:54:23 AM

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What are the badgewhore who have doubted Nissan could pull it off has to said now? Nissan GT-R went from 0-60 in 3.3s that is faster than the 911 turbo and Z06.

Wow it good to be King again, congratulation Nissan, the throne is once again yours. Long live the Nissan GT-R.

He..he..ha..ha..ha..he...It would be really funny if they do anothr test by another review and have 3.1s-3.2s instead of 3.3s. LOL...ah..he..he..he..ha..ha..

S4, I guess you have to swallow all your words bro! laughing out loud. Ah... he..he..he..ha..ha...

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528i - 12/19/2007 3:02:59 AMView My AgentSpace

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you past your bed time.

Kinger - 12/19/2007 6:53:34 AM

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Lexus why do always call everyone else badge-whore's when you're one of the biggest badge-whore's on this site.

The GT-R is a epic performance car. Nobodys doubting that, most of the negative's posted about this car revolver around how it looks, which is subjective anyway. What do you want everyone to do? Declare the GT-R the greatest car of all time, bow before it and then have everyone go out and buy a Japanese car? Come on...

Ingenieur - 12/19/2007 9:36:11 AM

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Yes, the GT-R is great but you should tone your act down a bit.

1995e34 - 12/19/2007 2:55:42 PM

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lexus, why would you compare a gt-r to ANY bmw. bmw doesn't even make an exotic right now. just about everything bmw makes shares a platform with a sedan. apples + oranges.

kablaam - 12/19/2007 8:12:37 PM

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Lexus:

Badge Whore? For someone who's handle is LEXUS that is pretty ironic.

Why would you buy a Lexus GS vs Toyota Avalon, Lexus ES vs Toyota Camry, Lexus RX vs Toyota Highlander the list goes on, the only difference between the two(besides the obvious BADGE and Price) is cosmetic and convenience features. The powertrain, chassis etc. are ALL the same.

No one doubts that the GTR is/was going to be a great car, but no one who wants to buy a "Supercar" is going to look at the GTR. Sorry. The 911 was Nissan's benchmark, not it's demographic competition no matter what Carlos, you or Kazutoshi say.

Hey the GTR is almost as fast as the Enzo too, I can imagine an Enzo owner trading his car in for a GTR. That's a funny thought.

I95SPEEDINGTICKETS - 12/20/2007 2:56:01 AM

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Kaisersozedude

Where are ya

Id like to see some Essay from you on how the 3.5 sec claim is not possible in the GTR

Go on, we will try to accept your humility with good grace.

I95SPEEDINGTICKETS - 12/20/2007 3:06:07 AM

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Actually i don't remember S4 saying anything bad about the GT-R

Only person i remember who consistently had to challenge every article on the GT-R was kaisersozedude.

Must be special living in his own version of the real world.

DaHarder - 12/20/2007 1:59:31 PM

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Fact Check:

The LEXUS GS-Series/Toyota Aristo are based on the same Mid-Sized RWD platform as the JDM Toyota Crown-Series.

NOT Toyota's FWD platform which is used for the Camry/Highlander/Windom/Harrier/Lexus ES/Rx Series.

4x4rules - 12/20/2007 6:58:01 PM

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I guess when your username is LEXUS you are officially NOT a badge whore.

BAROSSO - 12/21/2007 1:57:34 AM

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ok, first of all the nissan gtr, is 900 pounds heavier than a corvette z06, and has less power. good old physics rules here in this universe. this car should not be as fast as a corvette z06. and yeah i know about dual clutch and 4 wheel drive, but formula one and indy and nascar dont use 4wd so this is pretty much a moot point.

all this is, is good old manufacturer and gtr enthusiast propoganda. remember the dodge stealth and mitsu gt4000 back in the early 90's? they had 0-60 times of 4.9 secs, weighed 3900 pounds and by the mid 90's were only running 5.5 or 6 secs to 60mph. same thing with the toyota supra of that time.

and i agree with th cost of ownership, jsell. i also think this propoganda will help the dealerships achieve maximum mark-up for these cars. there is no way any one here in the U.S. will ever buy one for the $70,000 price tag. more like 100-120K...i guarantee it. this makes the Z06 pretty attractive....

by the way, has anybody seen the way all that stuff is crammed into that engine bay? RIDICULOUS! WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THOUSANDS OF BUCKS FOR SIMPLE MAINTENANCE!lol
its all propoganda, designed to create maximum desire for this car. looks like you guys have taken the bait.

I95SPEEDINGTICKETS - 12/22/2007 2:47:50 AM

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And i guess you fell for the Z06 propaganda.

Such ignorance is dangerous,

Formula 1 & Indy Cars have serious Downforce Apparel placed on them to force the vehicle down unto the road thus negating the need for AWD

Nascar Cars just go round in Very Large Ovals so the AWD advantade is again negated.

AWD has an advantage at LAUNCH // CORNERING // WET & ICY Conditions

RWD had the advantage for Max Speed and ability to transfer more of the Engine Power to the Driven Wheels so less Drivetrain Loss

Also High Performance AWD has always posed a problem because of how you channell all that power to the Front Wheels which also have the job of Turning

Remember the comical turning circle of the Impreza WRC and Mitsubishi Evo FQ400, Audi RS6 turning circle was also laughable.

DaHarder - 12/20/2007 2:08:52 PM

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The A.W.E.E.M. (AutoSpies WannaBe Euro Enthusiast Majority) don't seem to have the (intellectual) resources to combat FACTS!

They tend to (try to) substantiate their 'beliefs' with abstracts such as suspension settings that allow more 'driver involvement' and interiors that have a greater 'sense of occasion' but...

Now That Some REAL GT-R Performance Numbers have surfaced, they're 'laying very low'.

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BAROSSO - 12/21/2007 2:01:21 AM

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car and driver will not! lol nobody will.....mark my words. this car with the power to weight ratio will never do this. use your heads people.

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I95SPEEDINGTICKETS - 12/22/2007 2:51:51 AM

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Barosso

You are a Kaisersozedude.

Come on, Admit it.

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Lexus - 12/19/2007 3:07:05 AM

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When BMW make a car that can handle as well or do 0-60 in 3.3s or less, and sale it for $70k, than we talk.

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Bill - 12/19/2007 8:52:42 AM

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Nissan is a mainstream brand and they sell cars for "less money" than premium brands.

Get that into your head.

The day we see Mr. Lexus realize that BMW and Nissan don't compete, then we'll talk...

Agent009 - 12/19/2007 10:06:28 AMView My AgentSpace

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Why not talk now. BMW wasn't the subject to begin with

enthusiastx11 - 12/19/2007 11:55:45 AM

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when the japanese can make a performance car that isn't butt-ugly and cheap looking, then we can talk.

Spectator - 12/19/2007 12:39:14 PM

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As opposed to the beautiful Bangle designs everyone says are phenominal.

Zenophobia runs rampant on this site.

Good cars are good cars, no matter where they are manufactured.

BTW...

Here are some other japanese performance vehicles that most might not consider "butt-ugly and cheap looking":

2000GT
S2000
240-280ZX
RX-7 (FD)
Mk IV Supra
NSX

DaHarder - 12/20/2007 4:07:44 PM

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Spectator...

Yes it does, I've long found that most 'open forums' on the WWW are full of xenophobes, and it's completely ridiculous and unjustified... especially when referring to automobiles.

The Nissan GT-R is a Brilliant Performer, and 'Quite Possibly' the new Performance Benchmark... Regardless of Country of Origin!

Note: Xenophobia is most often the result of personal insecurities and feelings of inferiority...

So, My Fellow Posters - Ask yourself, Is This You?

4x4rules - 12/20/2007 7:56:55 PM

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spectator, every car you listed looks better than the GTR

DaHarder - 12/20/2007 8:48:15 PM

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...and to the GT-R driver/owner, they'll look Even Better In Their Rear View Mirror!

Lexus - 12/19/2007 3:08:51 AM

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This post is definitely going to get 100 post or response at least by this afternoon.

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Hyundai - 12/19/2007 11:56:37 PM

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You are lame.

DaHarder - 12/20/2007 8:51:37 PM

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If LAME Equates to Being Accurate (x 2)...

Then LAME is a Very Good Thing Indeed!

Teknik - 12/19/2007 3:14:35 AMView My AgentSpace

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Where are all the idiots and haters who said that this car was over-rated, over-hyped, and would under-deliver? How about all you trolls go and crawl back under your rocks and eat dirt.

EL34 is crying to his mommy right now like a little baby.

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91z4me - 12/19/2007 8:08:52 AM

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While I think this is a terrific car and will please all those who can find one to buy, I don't for a minute think it is an end all. Porche won't rest until it is back on top and then Nissan will update, Dodge's Viper and Chevy's Corvette team will be in the mix. No doubt that isn't a bad thing. Competition is ALWAYS good it causes improvements in all areas.

But as for hype. This car IS still overhyped. People have been making claims about this car for well over a year at least, some said it would come in w/ its current specs yet be under 3400 lbs in weight. Also I think Nissan is under rating that engine. It seems like MORE than a stretch to say that 480 hp can motivate a 3800 lb car to the times the GT-R achieves.

That being said kudos to Nissan, and like everyone here I can't wait for the TopGear episode to see the Stig beat on one and find out what times it can post on their track.

Ingenieur - 12/19/2007 9:49:31 AM

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91z4me,

I'd like to see the Stig get his hands on the GT-R as well. If you look at the pics from the other Edmunds article on the GT-R, guess who's driving it?

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=123940#12

Yep, it's him.

SevorbeupstryIsBack - 12/19/2007 4:59:07 AM

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That's QUICK

Can't wait until they test the facelift 997 TT.

It's godzilla for sure!

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SevorbeupstryIsBack - 12/19/2007 7:54:39 AM

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it's official? Oh boy oh boy can't wait

i hope it wil have a manual gearbox, not a big fan of flappy paddle nonsense on road cars (except the veyron -> exception)

Ingenieur - 12/19/2007 9:38:43 AM

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Yes, it's official. I think it well get ceramic brakes in addition to stiffer chassis/suspension, more power and lighter weight. It'll be out in Japan end of '08 if my memory serves me right.

SevorbeupstryIsBack - 12/19/2007 5:03:34 AM

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by the way Edmunds are morons

"It's even quicker than the Porsche 911 Turbo Tiptronic, but not by much. The German hits 60 mph in 3.4 seconds and blasts through the quarter-mile in 11.6 at 118.5 mph. Due to their lack of all-wheel drive, the Dodge Viper and Corvette Z06 are held back by traction limitations. Despite its 600-hp V10, the last Viper coupe we tested reached 60 mph in 3.7 seconds and finished the quarter-mile 11.8 at 125.3 mph. The Corvette Z06 isn't even close. Once impressive, its 4.1-second 0-60-mph run and 12-second quarter-mile at 121.8 mph are now well off the pace, which is why Chevy is creating the supercharged Corvette ZR1."

O-60 is irrelevant for supercars like this. It's the 0-200 and 0-300 sprint that REALLY matters

it's pure logic that a AWD car will get much quicker off the line. But that doesn't mean the 600 hp is slower! In fact it's quicker! O-200 it's quicker. the Z06 does 0-200 in 11,7 seconds, which is quicker than the porsche.

i hate these useless reviews. 1/4 mile is fun, but a bit pointless.

i want to see in gear acceleration!

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SevorbeupstryIsBack - 12/19/2007 5:05:17 AM

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besides, you can easily chiptune a 997 turbo to 530 hp without any mods. it will run over 300 kmh and it will be quicker than the nissan (which isn't tuner friendly at all --> big mistake)

in fact I love the GT-R as an engneering masterpiece, but it's no skyline like the R34, R33, R32, ..

SevorbeupstryIsBack - 12/19/2007 7:56:47 AM

-6 Boost

the block is very strong, so that is good

but all the rest isn't

- turbo's integrated in exhaust manifold
- unhackable ecu
- very complex gearbox
- very complex computers everywhere

there is no deniying that this thing won't be as good as the R34, the last real skyline in my opinion

Ingenieur - 12/19/2007 9:42:37 AM

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SevorbeupstryIsBack,

You might find this quote from TopGear interesting:

"From medium revs in 4th gear, with me driving the Nissan and with a passenger on board, the radio countdown allowed us to nail the throttles simultaneously with the cars side by side. The Porsche crawled forward, and I mean crawled, v-e-r-y slowly. It only highlights the supernatural performance of the GT-R."

I95SPEEDINGTICKETS - 12/20/2007 2:40:50 AM

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Sevor

You stated " the Z06 does 0-200 in 11,7 seconds, which is quicker than the porsche."

Could you please post links to where you got this info from

Also could you explain how the Z06 Quarter mile figures have consistently been above 12 secs and about 120mph if it takes 11.7 secs to reach 200mph.

Just asking for some clarification.

kablaam - 12/20/2007 11:18:32 AM

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95-that's KPH, not MPH.

It would take the Bugatti 20+ seconds to reach 200 MPH.

Air Drag is very difficult to overcome.I believe there was a topgear episode which stated the bugatti needed 250 HP or so to reach 150 mph and the rest of the 700+ HP just to get past the next 100MPH for a top speed of 253.

MunichRob - 12/19/2007 5:56:59 AMView My AgentSpace

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Agreed the people @ Edmunds are morons, but I'm inclined to believe the GT-R is as capable as this test concluded. I've never questioned this cars capability at all in the performance department.

Although I don't understand what "Lexus" is talking about when he states the Nissan is once again the "king" when the 911 still clearly reigns supreme.

Yes the GT-R is maybe faster than the Turbo but is slower & much less capable than a GT2 911, not to mention we'll see a slightly updated Turbo in a few months which will quickly fix Porsches nightmare from Japan.

Not to mention the fact that the Porsche completes all track & field events with ease in a much nicer suit than GT-R's, & with a lot more refinement, comfort, & other luxuries that match & make up for it's almost doubled price tag.

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ThierryHenry14 - 12/19/2007 11:56:16 AM

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nightmare from japan? you think Porsche cares that this car is out? I think that they are flattered that they were used as a benchmark for the GT-R.

sewingmachine - 12/19/2007 6:32:53 AM

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this car is a freakin beast. this car has set the new benchmark. theres nothin that can touch this car for the price and performance except the trailing zo6. ive never heard so many lame excuses of y this car doesnt live up to the hype. heres a couple new ones:

-O-60 is irrelevant for supercars like this. It's the 0-200 and 0-300 sprint that REALLY matters
- hate these useless reviews. 1/4 mile is fun, but a bit pointless.
-i want to see in gear acceleration

ahhh the gear accelation, i forgot about that one.

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SevorbeupstryIsBack - 12/19/2007 8:00:18 AM

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you are missing the point.

edmund's article shows that the viper and corvette are slower than the gt-r but in real world they aren't. the GT-r maybe quicker to 60 but show the viper some space and the extra 120 hp + shitload of torque + lighter weight will embarras the nissan

sewingmachine - 12/19/2007 6:34:56 AM

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oh i forgot edmunds are morons. when it goes ur way, i hope u bring that one up too, cause we all know u can do a better job than them.

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Heyhuub - 12/19/2007 8:55:44 AM

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Porsche overpriced junk? What are you on?

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M35MT - 12/19/2007 10:08:13 AMView My AgentSpace

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What the F*** are you smoking? Nissan is a reliable auto maker, far above and European or American make. Shut up.

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Porschinator - 12/20/2007 3:08:57 PM

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LOLOL...CPT..Porsche over priced junk. Obviously you never drove one. Yeah..I am sure everyne knows that...LOL. Ahhh..thanks I needed that.

Nissan undoubtedly made a great car. Waiting for other 0-60 times. Wish the front fascia looked more like the concept. Let the comparos begin!

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S4cabriofoxone - 12/19/2007 8:51:37 AMView My AgentSpace

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"Lexus," GIVE IT A REST for once! I've been praising this car since its conception!

But there is no need for you to compare it to other cars in EVERY article! That's what brings out the fanboy in me and so many other people! The GT-R is amazing... but that doesn't mean the Turbo, R8 and the rest can't be, too! Let us appreciate this car in peace for once.

On a different note, these are awesome times, and Edmunds sucks when it comes to acceleration figures.

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SHOWTIME - 12/19/2007 9:25:04 AM

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I wonder if it can beat the F430 on a track??

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M35MT - 12/19/2007 10:09:20 AMView My AgentSpace

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The coolest thing about this car? We get it in the US this time.

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GetemHigh125 - 12/19/2007 11:20:01 AM

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We'll see about the GT-R's "unhackable" ECU. I think thats straight BS. Tuning companies will figure this car out in no time.

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4x4rules - 12/20/2007 7:02:52 PM

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These hand assembled engines with that turbo setup are expensive problems to tweak. I think thats why they made it harder to hack the ECU. They dont want to have to replace a bunch of blown turbos/engines.

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EL34 - 12/19/2007 12:01:34 PM

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Nissan sells the GT-R for $70 grand, but they're taking a big hit on the car. The car should be at $200 grand, but they've got this point to prove that they can build a fast car for $70 grand which is bullcrap.

And last but not least the GT-R is pure 100% ugly.

Not a sexy line on it. The thing has all the styling of a suitcase.

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M35MT - 12/19/2007 12:22:49 PMView My AgentSpace

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Stop eating paint chips.

Need4Speed - 12/19/2007 6:36:26 PM

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Just as stupid as those that think they will be able to buy this car for $70,000. Unless the Nissan dealerships agreed to waive there right to dealer markup on this car you're probably going to spend north of $85,000 for this car. Remember the cardinal rule

Demand
-------- = $$Price$$
Supply

At 1500 cars a year...guess which part of the equation is not in your favor!

4x4rules - 12/20/2007 8:06:10 PM

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i dont know wtf you are talking about, except i do think the car is ugly. fast as sh*t but fugly.

ThierryHenry14 - 12/19/2007 12:06:11 PM

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Nice time. Never like Edmund reviews, but this car is a beast. Great to see cars pushing the envelope for others. It only makes others push their engineering to the limits. Would have liked to see a higher top end speed though. perhaps in the 200mph.

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_43LE - 12/19/2007 12:20:53 PM

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It's a great car, too bad some people have to be so small.

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EL34 - 12/19/2007 12:24:01 PM

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You know, after you drive fast in this car what do you have left?

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Ingenieur - 12/19/2007 12:54:41 PM

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Well you said it should cost 200K so that'll be 130K in savings. That's what you are left with.

bmwdrvr - 12/19/2007 12:55:28 PM

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there is some logic to that, realistically no one can go as fast this car will go so if all it offered were speed it would be pointless. but regardless of the hypothetical(ive never driven one to know if all it offers is speed) this is impressive for the price, and in general, it seems like it would be generating more hp for a 0-60 in 3.3 seconds than the claimed hp. This car seems to set a new benchmark

EL34 - 12/19/2007 1:01:28 PM

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I buy cars for their styling and not for how fast they go especially cars that go this fast.

Therefore I would buy a Corvette convertible and attract all the chicks ;)

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_43LE - 12/19/2007 1:26:06 PM

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Don't forget to unbutton your shirt and wear a lot of gold chains.

EL34 - 12/19/2007 1:41:42 PM

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_43LE - 12/19/2007 2:17:54 PM

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Ah, topless I see, you're going for the gay male look at an all night rave. Enjoy cruising through West Hollywood, nothing wrong with that.

EL34 - 12/19/2007 2:52:46 PM

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I've been known to drive around town naked with the top down!

_43LE - 12/19/2007 2:55:06 PM

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Why are we not surprised?

golfer38 - 12/19/2007 5:35:17 PMView My AgentSpace

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Your lifemate is going to be jealous... and why am I not surprised that you need a car to "pick up" anyone.

flychronic - 12/19/2007 5:37:30 PM

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True, in LA you're better off coming in a Prius than a Corvette to a club.

Brembo - 12/19/2007 5:52:35 PM

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I like EL34...he's funny ...

4x4rules - 12/20/2007 6:59:19 PM

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in east LA maybe

4x4rules - 12/20/2007 8:07:06 PM

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hahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahaahahahahahaahaha

Lexus - 12/19/2007 1:19:22 PM

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I guess those of you whoever doubted Nissan has to swallow your words.

He...he.. ha..ha...ha..

Godzilla is back, and back with a Vengence, LOL.....he..he...ha...

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4x4rules - 12/20/2007 2:09:38 PM

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none of his posts are after nine oclock.......so i would guess 12 years old at most.

flychronic - 12/19/2007 1:25:04 PM

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Why is everyone on this site comparing this to the 911 turbo? The real people who are interested in purchasing this car, myself included, are comparing it to a regular 911, which is closer in price. After owning a Boxter S, Carrera S I am done with Porsche. My brother has a 997 Turbo and he is even more excited about the GT-R than I am. I guess once you own a Porsche for a few years, the exciment subsides, it's the same thing over and over. The GT-R, honestly I thought it was one ugly mfer. But when I saw it at the LA auto show, what a difference. This kind actually had a big presence. On the way home in my 911, it felt very old and outdated. To drive it on daily basis, it is torture.

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S4cabriofoxone - 12/19/2007 7:31:10 PMView My AgentSpace

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"To drive it on daily basis, it is torture."

WOW, I think this is the snobbiest comment I've read on the site. Allow me to take that C2S off your hands, because I know it's so terrible!

flychronic - 12/20/2007 6:26:46 PM

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S4,
So what is the reason for you not owning one? C2S

S4cabriofoxone - 12/20/2007 10:38:33 PMView My AgentSpace

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Because I need AWD. At least for now.

Soon, I'll be getting some sort of Audi or BMW AWD sedan/coupe, and perhaps a C2S Cabrio will come a year later. That's what makes the most sense.

flychronic - 12/21/2007 8:29:23 PM

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A C4S would make more sense, glad to know you'll have a second car as a daily driver. Believe me, a Porsche is a very harsh ride, the clutch and pedals heavy. My daily driver is a Lexus.

_43LE - 12/19/2007 1:27:32 PM

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"You know, after you drive fast in this car what do you have left?"

You can then try driving slower cars like the 911 Turbo;)

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EL34 - 12/19/2007 1:39:19 PM

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Forget about this Sponge Bob Squarepants Datsun and get a Reeves Callaway C16 Speedster that will do 0 to 60 in 3.2 seconds and it's a chick magnet to boot.

All for $139,900 ;)

A true OC sports car.

http://www.callawaycars.com/

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Obliv - 12/19/2007 2:33:10 PM

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Except it doesnt even have a windshield, and you need to also get their custom helmet just to drive it. Neat car, but yeah. going 200mph without even a windshield just sounds like youd be scraping bugs off your tailor made leather jacket after ever ride.

EL34 - 12/19/2007 3:17:11 PM

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Then get the Callaway Corvette.

It does 0 to 60 in 3.3 seconds.

_43LE - 12/19/2007 2:28:25 PM

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hmmm, you're interesting.

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Lyall - 12/19/2007 1:39:33 PM

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Right on 43LE!! Kayzersoze, EL34 are going to be in a group-weep session tonight. Can someone on this site send 'em a load of alka-seltzer please. And some gold chains to happy 'em up too.

Jokes aside- its a bad sign when people are unwilling to give something outstanding, its due- just because it diesn't have a so called 'Brand Name'. It speaks of a greater insecurity within. On another note, EL34- I pity the women you date- or troll for, just like you troll this site- blariing your OC music, shirt oen, gold chains (and gold teeth too maybe?) flashing in the So-Cal sun.

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