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LONG TERM REVIEW: Lexus RX400h-Does it stand the test of time?
The primary purpose of a hybrid vehicle is to save gas, yet hybrid technology has made some models, such as the Honda Accord hybrid and the RX400h, quicker than their gas-only counterparts. Getting more miles per gallon and going quicker from 0 to 60 mph is the kind of thinking we like. But to discover if the RX400h luxury SUV really could be quicker, save us some money, and assuage the environmentalist in some of us, we needed a long-term test. Read Article
LONG TERM REVIEW: Lexus RX400h-Does it stand the test of time?



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mitchatlexusofmarinmitchatlexusofmarin - 3/19/2007 10:45:15 AM
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I'm sorry- did we read the same article? I missed the part where it "fell apart". Must be by stupid American eyes....darn them.

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KeyserSozeKeyserSoze - 3/19/2007 10:59:13 AM
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formula1, are you serious! you been away for too long on planet Germany,a lot has changed since you left, welcome back to planet earth. Oh by the way Hitler is dead, just let you in on some of the major happenings since you left. welcome back!!

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mitchatlexusofmarinmitchatlexusofmarin - 3/19/2007 11:31:20 AM
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That should have read "my" stupid American eyes.

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RupertRupert - 3/19/2007 11:52:44 AMView My AgentSpace
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So did Japan you complete moron!
I fail to see what WW2 does to the current quality of cars.

And the RX is not allowed off-road, toyota says if you do, it will overheat and die. It's not even proper 4WD, the rears are electric only!

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EL34EL34 - 3/19/2007 12:59:44 PM
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Lexusmaniac, and the Japanese were responsible for ten million Chinese dying during WWII. Look it up.

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RupertRupert - 3/19/2007 5:37:50 PMView My AgentSpace
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Yes, you can explain why Japan and Germany lost WW2 in 1 sentence.
Please go away, you contribute nothing to this site other than garbage.

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Will_Will_ - 3/19/2007 6:07:16 PM
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You know, we hear all this criticism about the "Lexus fanboys," yet nothing is said about the equally ignorant anti-Lexus fanboys...

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david999david999 - 3/19/2007 10:28:39 AM
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Your joking right? They did a long term test of a first year RX400 and had no
breakdowns or mechanical repairs.

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answeranswer - 3/19/2007 11:13:53 AMView My AgentSpace
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The only breakdown here is of the mental variety, and it happened to "formula 1".

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Agent63Agent63 - 3/19/2007 11:21:15 AMView My AgentSpace
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I'd imagine this RX will stand the test of time. I've been in an RX before it seems to be built quite solidly. I think it should do fine.

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quizzquizz - 3/19/2007 11:39:36 AM
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Although a technological marvel, the RX-H is still a first generation product in terms of overall drivetrain smoothness. For now, I would stick with the BMW diesel engines in the X5 when available - that engine has proven itself already. Unfortunately, there is doubt whether it will make it to California due to emissions requirements.

Oh well.



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RupertRupert - 3/19/2007 11:53:50 AMView My AgentSpace
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The X5 3.0d is very good, but soon (hopefully) there will be the X5 twin turbo 3.0d (like the 535d).


kpaxxkpaxx - 3/19/2007 11:54:40 AM
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Lexusmaniac

Oh really you must have your facts confused!

http://www.autospies.com/news/Lexus-RX-400H-vs-BMW-X3-3-0sd-10500/

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S4cabriofoxoneS4cabriofoxone - 3/19/2007 5:53:00 PMView My AgentSpace
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LOL!

That's what they all say.

One GERMAN article had the LS460 in first.

One AMERICAN article had the LS460L in dead last.

Does that mean nobody has a perfect, un-biased opinion like you? Yes, you know absolutely everything there is to know. Everything revolves around Lexus. The rest is just commentary.


SupraNeverBackSupraNeverBack - 3/19/2007 12:05:38 PM
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I believe this is the long term test from C&D I read before. Those lead foot drivers can still manage 24mpg and a normal driver average 27 mpg, "By working at it, with no hard acceleration and making use of the regenerative braking, he managed to average 27 mpg over four months." Not bad.

Another interesting thing is that 0-60 time improves from 7.5s to 6.6s after some mileage, almost one second faster!






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SupraNeverBackSupraNeverBack - 3/19/2007 12:09:41 PM
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Guess GS450h maybe will run 0-60 under 5s after some miles. ^o^


answeranswer - 3/19/2007 12:50:13 PMView My AgentSpace
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I didn't realize you could get a feeling of a car by checking it out on the website. Kudos to you!

I know you're not really trying to tell us you sat in a GS hybrid, let alone drove one are you?

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MurderFaceM6MurderFaceM6 - 3/19/2007 12:22:42 PM
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*pauses*

Asian hybrids are sketchy and are still crawling on all fours. i will be intrested when the germans come out with a walking upright model hybrid. Not all kinks are sorted out and when they are i'll be ready and waiting.

and about the "everlasting lexus" - every single lexus i see thats older than 2004 looks pretty lacklusture and outdated. just my opinion

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SupraNeverBackSupraNeverBack - 3/19/2007 12:38:48 PM
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LOL, German hybrids...


Agent63Agent63 - 3/19/2007 1:11:56 PMView My AgentSpace
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LexusManiac,

"Get a Lexus RX400h. Beats the BMW in every department. All the BMW has going for it is some fantasy magic feel."

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I don't know what it is but i'm beginning to see that you have a mental disability. Lexus beating BMW in every department? I don't think so little man. I don't know who's paying you or what kind of drugs you take but you have it all wrong, just like in all your comments.

The RX is a good car and built very well BUT you can't simply go and say it beats BMW in every department. If Lexus themselves don't make that claim what makes everyone else believe your claim is credible? Get a life ! Have you even driven an RX? or a BMW?... enough said.

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KeyserSozeKeyserSoze - 3/19/2007 1:12:51 PM
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Rupert, forgive me for trying to tell formula1 that his views and perception are of someone either highly ignorant or of person who has been asleep for the last 30 odd years or so and you call me a moron! it has nothing to do WW2. read my statement again.

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RupertRupert - 3/19/2007 5:40:34 PMView My AgentSpace
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Keyser, my comment was aimed at Lexusmaniac, not you. Sorry for the confusion.
I do agree, formula1's comment was rather stupid.


no1listensanywayno1listensanyway - 3/19/2007 1:14:17 PMView My AgentSpace
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This crap is never going to end. I hate this website.

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mitchatlexusofmarinmitchatlexusofmarin - 3/19/2007 7:35:42 PM
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But noone listens anyway.


no1listensanywayno1listensanyway - 3/20/2007 12:24:35 AMView My AgentSpace
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hence the name.


MurderFaceM6MurderFaceM6 - 3/19/2007 1:36:58 PM
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*taps shoe*

Helmut Panke promises a Hybrid 7 very soon.

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1970toyotamarc1970toyotamarc - 3/19/2007 2:47:38 PM
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This website has gotten ridiculous.

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Agent63Agent63 - 3/19/2007 3:31:36 PMView My AgentSpace
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Haha doesn't KIA own Hyundai or vice versa? there can't be a flame war haha.

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trd1trd1 - 3/19/2007 4:53:10 PM
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formula1 your so retarted, its not even funny.

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huu76huu76 - 3/19/2007 6:17:47 PM
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Fair article. Only complaint is that the guy claims hybrids are only meant for saving fuel. Not true. It may be better to use it for fuel, but Lexus has proved you can use hybrids for performance too. The RX gets better mileage and is fast.

Let's see what he says when gasoline hits $3 a gallon again. The higher the price, the faster the premium goes down. If gas is cheap, so what. You get higher mileage for less $. (his last paragraph contradicts his complaint about the premium) I noticed he didn't meantion the RX us SULEV.

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huu76huu76 - 3/19/2007 6:21:17 PM
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btw, the RX was never designed to go offroad, just like the X5 and ML.

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MurderFaceM6MurderFaceM6 - 3/19/2007 6:49:15 PM
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i take my X3 offroad all the time at Laurel Cavrens and Ohiopyle in Pennsylvania. it handles beautifully. my friend takes his X5 up to Ohiopyle all the time. comes home all messy like a kid playing in the mud!



chewychewy - 3/19/2007 8:39:14 PMView My AgentSpace
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The real article is from Car and Driver. They didn't like it, too many inconviences. They also babied it (slow/granny style) to get decent fuel economy (no AC in Arizona) If they did that to all vehicles they would see that most cars can get very decent fuel economy.

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SupraNeverBackSupraNeverBack - 3/20/2007 1:33:44 PM
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Read it again please! I read that original article too. Where did they say no AC used? Did you see the word "popular"?


"The RX400h was popular for staffers going on long trips, owing to its expensive-feeling interior and cushy, upscale seats. It had great power for passing, lots of bins for stowing things, and luggage space that seemed uncompromised by the extra batteries housed under the rear seat for the hybrid system.
What we really wanted to know about this hybrid, of course, was how it fared at the pumps. The EPA rates the RX400h at 31 mpg in the city and 27 mpg on the highway, and we averaged 24 mpg over 40,000 miles. Its true that we have heavy feet here in Ann Arbor, so we sent the RX out to Pat Bedard in Arizona because he loves to tease every last drop of juice out of hybrids. By working at it, with no hard acceleration and making use of the regenerative braking, he managed to average 27 mpg over four months."



huu76huu76 - 3/19/2007 9:16:00 PM
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Offroad like this?
http://www.dirtroadmagazine.com/joey.jpg
http://4wheeldrive.about.com/library/uc/ucgraphics/Colorado%207-4%20014Thumb.jpg
http://www.swedenoffroad.com/pic/sot2004/58.jpg

I'm not crazy enough to drive a $50,000 vehicle like this, but it's nice to know I could if I absolutely had to for whatever reason.

The X3 and X5 are car chassis', so basically spaghetti. Dirt roads, 6 inches of snow or rain don't count as offroading. I can get my Jeep all muddy driving in a thunderstorm.

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huu76huu76 - 3/20/2007 9:20:51 PM
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Gogo5,
Take a hard corner with the X5 and see what happens. It's handling isn't as good as BMW wants you to believe. Ever here of the words "high centre of gravity"?

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huu76huu76 - 3/22/2007 10:15:47 PM
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If you want to take hard corners on cement roads, buy a car and save us all some gas.

If you want to take hard corners at highspeeds offroad, get a brain.

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dgoodsondgoodson - 3/23/2007 12:48:46 AM
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i test the RX400h and hated it. While the gasoline version was as smooth as silk (typical lexus), the hybrid was jerky and rough, almost entirely due to the rough engine transitions. although i know supposedly "that's how they work," and that it comes with the territory, for $50k i want a hybrid that doesn't drive like a $30k prius, i want and expect refinement, a lot of it. props to the trendsetters, but for me, the hybrid isn't ready for prime time in a lexus...

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